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I wonder what the stats would be if they eliminated older phones/tablets that are not compatible with the new versions
 
iOS 12 is great and will continue to be great on the iPhone 5S and iPhone 6, as well as some iPads. Apple has been leaving iPhones with much better ios versions than the old days. (Thinking of the 4S on iOS 9 and the 4 on iOS 7...)
 
Not true, you can't turn it off on iOS 11. It's a feature that came with 12. Common sense also says that technology gets cheaper over time. Common sense is to make a good keyboard after a bad. Common sense would also be letting users stick to their preferred iOS generation and provide the additional security update alone. But Apple isn't entirely run by common sense, is it?

I did keep 11 for as long as I could on my iPad Pro because the "new" iPhone X-y multitasking layout and gestures on the iPad frankly suck, and still I kinda regret updating because the performance gain is negligible.

As for iOS 13, the jury is still out. Given the kinks of 11.0 and 12.0 initial releases, I think I'll wait until 13.1 is available.



Notifications about updates is not a feature that just came with iOS 12. It's been around for years. Here's a recent article from Macworld from last fall that tells you how to turn it off so you don't get reminded that your software is out of date.

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/stop-iphone-nagging-ios-software-update-3641478/
 
Notifications about updates is not a feature that just came with iOS 12. It's been around for years. Here's a recent article from Macworld from last fall that tells you how to turn it off so you don't get reminded that your software is out of date.

https://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iphone/stop-iphone-nagging-ios-software-update-3641478/

That is a misleading article. Disabling auto updates and notifications came with iOS 12 and Apple Support confirmed it to me in a hilarious conversation that went like:
"- I want to disable auto-downloads and update prompts to iOS 12
- You can do that if you download iOS 12 and set auto updates to off!
- Ma'am, I want to disable notifications because I want to keep iOS 11, that's the whole point
- Sorry, that feature is not available on iOS 11. Anything else I can help you with today?"

Each time I would delete the iOS 12 auto-downloaded installer, it would reappear again after a week or so, and there was NO way to deactivate that process other than always deleting it manually. At the end I caved and installed that piece of ...

The only realistic way to stop these nagging updates and prevent the server from version checks was to install a custom Apple TV beta profile on your iPhone/iPad.
 
That is a misleading article. Disabling auto updates and notifications came with iOS 12 and Apple Support confirmed it to me in a hilarious conversation that went like:
"- I want to disable auto-downloads and update prompts to iOS 12
- You can do that if you download iOS 12 and set auto updates to off!
- Ma'am, I want to disable notifications because I want to keep iOS 11, that's the whole point
- Sorry, that feature is not available on iOS 11. Anything else I can help you with today?"

Each time I would delete the iOS 12 auto-downloaded installer, it would reappear again after a week or so, and there was NO way to deactivate that process other than always deleting it manually. At the end I caved and installed that piece of ...

The only realistic way to stop these nagging updates and prevent the server from version checks was to install a custom Apple TV beta profile on your iPhone/iPad.


The article points out how you could do it with iOS 11, so you shouldn't have been getting those. Sound like there was a miscommunication somewhere
 
The article points out how you could do it with iOS 11, so you shouldn't have been getting those. Sound like there was a miscommunication somewhere

See, the article also says "...users have reported that iOS re-downloads the update when the iPhone is connected to Wi-Fi." And the on/off updates toggle was added with iOS 12. I could have also done the domain block or the TV OS beta profile but I found it overkill.

Why are you so keen to invalidate my experience as a user because an article says so?
 
iOS12 has been insanely better than iOS11 was. it's still fairly laggy on my iPad Air, and the iPhone6 i've been using temporarily seems better off with it than 11.

I would whole heartedly recommend upgrading to 12 if you're still on 11. (if you can)

However, don't know if it's my Air or iOS12, but it's still ridiculously slow and laggy in many different scenarios. loading Slack takes 20-45 seconds before it's usable. its' worse on the iPad Air.
 
The article points out how you could do it with iOS 11, so you shouldn't have been getting those. Sound like there was a miscommunication somewhere

See, the article also says "...users have reported that iOS re-downloads the update when the iPhone is connected to Wi-Fi." And the on/off updates toggle was added with iOS 12. I could have also done the domain block or the TV OS beta profile but I found it overkill.

Why are you so keen to invalidate my experience as a user because an article says so?
The profile method (like tvOS profile) is pretty much one of the only ones that works well. There are really no other methods that would prevent automatic downloads, be it in iOS 12 or 11 or any other version (short of pretty much never being on WiFi and/or having your storage space constantly full).
 
See, the article also says "...users have reported that iOS re-downloads the update when the iPhone is connected to Wi-Fi." And the on/off updates toggle was added with iOS 12. I could have also done the domain block or the TV OS beta profile but I found it overkill.

Why are you so keen to invalidate my experience as a user because an article says so?


No ones interested in invalidating your experience. You obviously struggled with this issue, and it isn't intuitive how to shut off the notifications, hence the articles that have been written on how to do it. As other posters have pointed out, it sounds like there was a misunderstanding in communicating to you what your options were to shut off the notifications.
 
Upgrading from iOS 10 to 11/12 was the biggest mistake I ever made on my 7 and my wife's 6s. Totally killed the battery life. It's like the phone's actively trying to kill the battery (getting hot while idling).
 
Upgrading from iOS 10 to 11/12 was the biggest mistake I ever made on my 7 and my wife's 6s. Totally killed the battery life. It's like the phone's actively trying to kill the battery (getting hot while idling).
Something doesn't seems quite right if things are heating up and even more so if while idle too. You might want to try reinstalling or something along those lines.
 
What good are updates if iOS still lacks features that Android had seven years ago like split screen multitasking, background multitasking, background file/media/web services, dock/desktop mode, place icons anywhere on home screen, swipe away unwanted calls, external drive support, mouse support with a real pointer, etc.?

What good are features (most of them gimmicky) if the user experience is not great?
 
The user experience on iOS 12 is almost perfect. As good as it has been in years. Hoping they can keep it up in iOS 13.

I had major issues specifically with iOS 8 and iOS 11.
 
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