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iOS 12 Includes Setting to Disable USB Access When an iPhone Hasn't Been Unlocked for More Than an Hour

I always found it funny that in order to provide or help protect our own security, we must trust the same thing we are wanting to be protected from...

We use apps to "help" protect our security, which behind the scenes they would share data if they wanted to which claiming they do not.

A little help is better, but don't go 99% full on.
 
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Mousse said:
Basically, the stuff people put on Facebook:D. We know seriously Facebook takes security.:eek: Like a house with hi-tech security front door and a wide open backdoor.o_O

The best security is the stuff between the ears.;) Apple needs to put add a firewall feature to iOS. That is protection for the always on wireless connection. THAT is the real protection from hackers, since they won't have physical access to your phone, but could gain access OTA.
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Who puts banking info on Facebook? :rolleyes: And actually emails, and others? I don’t. Maybe you do, and that’s cool. Have fun.

Facebook accessing info I put on Facebook for ads is way difference than an attacker accessing my info for harm. Big differences.
 
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tennisproha said:
The way this article is written, it's very confusing what is on and what is off. I think you should just update it to say when the toggle is on, USB access will always be allowed. When the toggle is off, USB access will be restricted after 1 hour.
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So, it seems I am not the only one which find it confusing and you seem to be native English.

Tech198 said:
This would be good just for the,assuming your iphone is already unlocked, and in user may not keep their iphones unlocked always for security reasons...

You mean you'd want to input you passcode *twice* ? Isn't that just as bad as Apple constantly asking you for your Apple ID password?
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My main point is Apple's explanation is confusing and I am not the only one as the other post here says the same.
 
Tech198 said:
I always found it funny that in order to provide or help protect our own security, we must trust the same thing we are wanting to be protected from...

We use apps to "help" protect our security, which behind the scenes they would share data if they wanted to which claiming they do not.

A little help is better, but don't go 99% full on.
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This is why I advocate having a firewall feature in iOS. I wish Google would add a firewall on android as well. Right now, you have to root and void your warranty. IMO, worth it. Firewall lets me control the flow of data from my phone. Anyone who doesn't use a firewall app, would be shock at how many apps want to send data in the background.
The best security is between the ears.
 
carpleror said:
I never understood ppl who say “**** the police”. Do you not know anyone who’s a cop? Like, not a single person? Where do they get the police in your community?
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The collective whole as a group is pure ****. If there were any good apples, they'd make the others become good as well; as the saying goes, a bad apples spoils the whole bunch.
 
carpleror said:
I never understood ppl who say “**** the police”. Do you not know anyone who’s a cop? Like, not a single person? Where do they get the police in your community?
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Unfortunately there are some communities where all the cops are from outside so they don't get to know the members of the community outside of negative interactions which lead to opinions like the ones of the poster you quoted where they assume they are all bad.
 
Does everyone trust Apple with all the information they collect with iCloud accounts & SIRI?
Anyhow I also like the fact you can delete and cancel apple accounts.
 
Dodgeman said:
Does everyone trust Apple with all the information they collect with iCloud accounts & SIRI?
Anyhow I also like the fact you can delete and cancel apple accounts.
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At least you can trust them on security, afaik they have not been hacked yet and as far as i am concerned I trust them much-MUCH more than Facebook, Google and plenty of others.
 
This implementation sounds great. A good step.

That’ll mean they’ll have to go back to randomly typing numbers and hoping not to get locked out.

Although I don’t use the setting for limited retries.

But... if they have the person in custody, their face and fingerprint are automatically available and legally usable. So they’ll need to do that within an hour.

But, for random instances where somebody may steal a phone, this is a great move.

For criminals, I have no love. But they’re devices will still be vulnerable if biometric unlocking is done within the hour. So I guess criminals need to be smart enough to remember a long passphrase and not use biometric options.
 
BC2009 said:
Touch ID makes it so I rarely have to enter that password.
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Color me stupid but ... couldn't law enforcement simply grab your latent fingerprints off your interrogation desk or the patrol car and use that sample with TouchID to unlock your phone ?
 
maculateConception said:
Color me stupid but ... couldn't law enforcement simply grab your latent fingerprints off your interrogation desk or the patrol car and use that sample with TouchID to unlock your phone ?
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No. The earlier version of TouchID could be hacked with luck and a lot of work, but the updated version has excellent security. Hence the need for law enforcement to spend 10’s of thousands for machines and the FBI’s complaining about Apple refusing to create backdoors.
 
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maculateConception said:
Color me stupid but ... couldn't law enforcement simply grab your latent fingerprints off your interrogation desk or the patrol car and use that sample with TouchID to unlock your phone ?
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Why use fingerprints you left behind??? They can just use your finger while they have you.

Your fingerprints, your eyes, and your face are not legally protected.

The contents of your brain are legally protected.

You cannot be legally forced to reveal information contained in your brain.

But your physical body has no such legal rights. Your image and your fingerprints are available to use while they have you.
 
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flyinmac said:
They can just use your finger while they have you.

Your fingerprints, your eyes, and your face are not legally protected.
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Really ? I thought they were. Or is it just DNA (cigarette butts and rims of soda cups/bottles) ?

Are you sure ?
 
maculateConception said:
Really ? I thought they were. Or is it just DNA (cigarette butts and rims of soda cups/bottles) ?

Are you sure ?
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Consider that they can fingerprint you and take your picture when they book you.

DNA is freely available anytime. Anything we discard loses our protection. So that gum we chewed, the cup we drank from, and the cigarette butt... as soon as they are disposed up in a place not owned by us, they are free to use anyway someone wants.

So if my trash is in my front porch, it’s protected.

If I put it at the street, I have freely said I don’t want this, it is yours to do with as you please.
 
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justperry said:
This (explanation)confuses me like hell, also the text under this setting should be much clearer what it does.

So, if I want to restrict acces to my iPhone should it be enabled, as in toggled so that the colour is green?

Apple could change the text to something like:

Enable(d) (green) you need to input your password after 1 hour if you want to regain USB data use.
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It’s not confusing when you look at the Settings screen. The top of this section says “Allow Access When Locked:”

The default is to not allow access, so it is unchecked (ie. not green).

The footer text also changes to explain what’s happening.
 
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Color me stupid but ... couldn't law enforcement simply grab your latent fingerprints off your interrogation desk or the patrol car and use that sample with TouchID to unlock your phone ?
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I think if you search there is a law against them doing that... even if the incapacitated in any manner.
 
Dodgeman said:
Does everyone trust Apple with all the information they collect with iCloud accounts & SIRI?
Anyhow I also like the fact you can delete and cancel apple accounts.
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More people would share data if they knew they could see what Apple has on them.... I see all of this stuff as convenience, but also a side track to hook into getting more data from users.. Not less

I like the ways Apple have caught up to what Google has had for years on Google's Dashboard, but to me i see it as a catch-22... just lure users to give up more....

After all, if you knew you could later download all your history from a company, wouldn't that make you store more data with them initially?

It would with me, but I don't trust Apple... Only myself.
 
mrkramer said:
Unfortunately there are some communities where all the cops are from outside so they don't get to know the members of the community outside of negative interactions which lead to opinions like the ones of the poster you quoted where they assume they are all bad.
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It’s not even that. My questions is more from a personal level. None of these people have friends or family members that went into law enforcement?
 
carpleror said:
It’s not even that. My questions is more from a personal level. None of these people have friends or family members that went into law enforcement?
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I would assume that the majority of those people do not have friends or family that went into law enforcement or if they do it is members of their family that they were never very close to. I do know some people personally who have that attitude and for the police that they know they dismiss them as one of the few exceptions to the rule of all cops being bad.

I can understand that to an extent as I spent some time in an Eastern European country where the police are known for being corrupt and soliciting bribes any time they can especially if they peg you for a foreigner. When I was there I did have a friend who was a police officer and he didn't seem to be corrupt like most of them, but the one experience with a friend wasn't enough to convince me that the vast majority of their police were very corrupt, so I can see that happening to someone here in the US as well.
 
csurfr said:
don't forget the street you grew up on and the name of your first pet (just to be sure we have it all).

I have a feeling this toggle will change in an upcoming beta. As it is now "off" is technically "on" so it's a bit counter-intuitive. Unless I'm a dolt that is. It just seems that it should read "turn this on to enable...." as opposed to the way it currently operates where the switch being toggled is actually "off".
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justperry said:
This (explanation)confuses me like hell, also the text under this setting should be much clearer what it does.

So, if I want to restrict acces to my iPhone should it be enabled, as in toggled so that the colour is green?

Apple could change the text to something like:

Enable(d) (green) you need to input your password after 1 hour if you want to regain USB data use.
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I think the best way to look at it is:
Allow USB Accessories :ON or yes
Not Allow USB accessories: OFF or no
Maybe they should add the word 'Allow' in front of the setting for more clarity.
 
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