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Toyota/Lexus has had this for nearly a decade. FOB in pocket, walk to door, place hand in handle - door unlocks. Go to rear of door, press hatch button, rear opens.
To me, the car is always unlocked and ready to drive.
To others, the car is always locked.

Why would I want to dig for an app, hold the phone next to the door - when I don't have to that now?

My household has 3 people in it, but our car only came with 2 FOBs. I love the idea of being able to just share a key between peoples' phones and stop worrying about which 2 people have the keys.
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The 2020 Hyundai Sonata is going to have smartphone keys. They announced it would be Android only a few months ago. Let's hope that changes now.
 
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Toyota/Lexus has had this for nearly a decade. FOB in pocket, walk to door, place hand in handle - door unlocks. Go to rear of door, press hatch button, rear opens.
To me, the car is always unlocked and ready to drive.
To others, the car is always locked.

In fairness, almost all manufacturers have had the keyless type of entry like you describe for the past 10+ years. It is quite convenient.

Why would I want to dig for an app, hold the phone next to the door - when I don't have to that now?

If you actually read the article, you don't have to dig for an app or even unlock or wake the phone. You would just tap either your phone or watch to wherever the NFC reader is. It is still more than having a keyless entry where you can rest your hand on the handle and it locks/unlocks when the fob is in close vicinity. But with time it sounds like between newer bluetooth LE and UWB that it'll work similar to that with phones and watches, and remove the need to carry around a physical fob.
 
I wonder if this would only be for the iphone 11 and newer with ulltra-wideband capabilities?
I would love to see Ultra-wideband home entry door locks too.
 
Toyota/Lexus has had this for nearly a decade. FOB in pocket, walk to door, place hand in handle - door unlocks. Go to rear of door, press hatch button, rear opens.
To me, the car is always unlocked and ready to drive.
To others, the car is always locked.

Why would I want to dig for an app, hold the phone next to the door - when I don't have to that now?
Wouldn’t it be nice not to need the fob?

If you read the article, with Bluetooth/UWB you won’t need to “dig for an app, hold the phone next to the door”.
 
I've never understood appeal of CarPlay. I have it but prefer factory nav sys & Sirius XM radio. CarPlay is just a 2nd screen for iPhone.

This is entirely dependent on the quality of your built-in system. Most are pretty bad. Some are pretty good. I'm betting you have the latter.
 
I've never understood appeal of CarPlay. I have it but prefer factory nav sys & Sirius XM radio. CarPlay is just a 2nd screen for iPhone.

My wife’s 2014 Q7 MMI system is horrible to use. I ended up installing a Carlinkit to get her CarPlay and she loves it now. The only time it switches back to the MMI system is when putting into reverse.
 
Sounds like a lot of extra steps to do something as simple as unlocking your car. Take out phone, hold near reader, authenticate with FaceID, wait for signal to unlock. As compared to just walking up to your door with a keyless FOB and tugging on the handle/pulling the button.

"This would allow you to approach your vehicle, hold your iPhone or Apple Watch near an NFC reader in the vehicle, authenticate with Face ID, and have the vehicle unlock automatically". Wow! It's that easy? Why would anyone bother with pushing a single button on a fob? o_O ;)

Yeah, the poster posted that but then quoted something below it that contradicts what he or she posted.

"To use CarKey, hold iPhone or Apple Watch to reader. It will work automatically, without requiring Face ID. You can change express mode settings in Wallet. "

Most likely its saying you will have options, options are great as users use-cases are typically different and some will want more security than others.

"Apple says the process may take several minutes to complete." THAT will kill this "solution" for most people.

For initial setup only.
 
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Sounds like a lot of extra steps to do something as simple as unlocking your car. Take out phone, hold near reader, authenticate with FaceID, wait for signal to unlock. As compared to just walking up to your door with a keyless FOB and tugging on the handle/pulling the button.
Yea and wouldn't most higher tech cars already allow this with the FOB or an app from the dealer? We have the MyChevrolet app and can just push the button on the door handle with the FOB near and the button in the car with the FOB near.
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I currently drive a Model 3, and one of my favourite things is not needing to carry a key fob around. Just walk up to the car, and when my iPhone is in proximity I can just open the door. Walk away and it locks.

But in general this will be really nice to see spread over time. Especially if its like Express Mode for transit (or whatever its called), where you can tap your iPhone or Watch without the need to authenticate. I used that in London in December and it was so nice.



Sounds like it might be even one step further - making it like Express Mode for transit where no authentication is needed.



To avoid carrying a key fob around.
This is like the people who don't carry the cards because of AP. I always have the backup physical card because you know the time you don't, AP is going to fail somehow. I already have the FOB on the same ring as my apartment keys so it's no big deal.
 
Sure, will be neat, it is just by the time the car manufacturers take it on we will be on iOS 17-18. 😋
 
Yea and wouldn't most higher tech cars already allow this with the FOB or an app from the dealer? We have the MyChevrolet app and can just push the button on the door handle with the FOB near and the button in the car with the FOB near.
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This is like the people who don't carry the cards because of AP. I always have the backup physical card because you know the time you don't, AP is going to fail somehow. I already have the FOB on the same ring as my apartment keys so it's no big deal.

I hear you. I keep an extremely small physical wallet. Holds my license plus a few cards. Essentially as a backup for places where Pay may not work. Between that and no longer needing to carry a key fob (I don't carry physical keys at all right now), its such a freeing feeling in a way. I can only imagine it'll get better for all of these uses (cars, door locks, etc) once newer versions of bluetooth and UWB become more widely used.
 
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Sounds a bit cumbersome. Pull out phone, authenticate, place near reader, then the door is open. Some cars today you just pull the handle and it unlocks. Maybe push a button to unlock.
 
I can't stand key FOBs. They're clunky awkward, and take up precious pocket room. My house/office keys, my car key FOB, and my wife's car key FOB together take up probably twice as much space as my wallet. Digital cards have enabled me to slim down my wallet considerably, I happily welcome ways to slim down keys that are essentially digital anyways.
 
Useless for cars that already have smart lock/unlock with the key FOB. Very useful if/when it can also be used to start the car (ignition). Then it would replace the FOB entirely and one less item in your pocket.
 
"Similar to Apple Pay for transit, Express Mode would be an option, eliminating the need to authenticate."

"Conveniently, it will be possible to share a CarKey with others, giving them full or restricted unlocking and driving capabilities."

"Next, the consortium is developing a Digital Key 3.0 specification based on both Bluetooth LE and Ultra Wideband to enable passive, location-aware keyless access. This would allow you to leave your iPhone in your pocket or backpack when accessing or starting your vehicle."

Come on. Please read it all before complaining.
Come on. Your opinion is your own. Sure, there are instances where it is useful. But, it isn't practical. Not yet. You don't have to like what I say. It's my opinion. I'm not trying to change anyone's mind.
 
This is gonna be amazing when it's widespread in a decade or so.

I often think that my watch can already make phone calls, meaning I can leave my phone at home, and can pay for things, meaning I can leave my wallet at home. If it operated as a car key I wouldn't need to bring anything out of the house but my watch itself.
 
I hear you. I keep an extremely small physical wallet. Holds my license plus a few cards. Essentially as a backup for places where Pay may not work. Between that and no longer needing to carry a key fob (I don't carry physical keys at all right now), its such a freeing feeling in a way. I can only imagine it'll get better for all of these uses (cars, door locks, etc) once newer versions of bluetooth and UWB become more widely used.

I'm trying to get on your level. I only carry my driver's license and credit card (don't use a debit card) so I have a Mujjo iPhone Wallet Case.

I HATE needing to carry keys, especially in my pockets, but when my new house is finish being built in a few months it will have smart-locks installed so I won't have to carry around house keys.

But how did you get around not needing a key FOB for your car?

I have the unlock/lock feature that I use through the Audi app but it's pain to use and takes at least 5-8 minutes to even unlock or lock the doors.
 
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