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Google used to publish version distribution stats for Android but it looks like that's no longer available to the public, just to developers.

Here's a peek at where things were in Feb.

This data is largely irrelevant. A proper comparison would be top tier android devices (Samsung, huawei, xiomi, etc) versus their Apple counterparts. Which as an owner of a galaxy s10 I have to say get their updates pretty much as frequently as the iOS devices
 
This data is largely irrelevant. A proper comparison would be top tier android devices (Samsung, huawei, xiomi, etc) versus their Apple counterparts. Which as an owner of a galaxy s10 I have to say get their updates pretty much as frequently as the iOS devices

That was my thought too.

Phones with "Android" come in all forms.

The Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra is an "Android" phone... but so is the $50 burner TracPhone that you buy at the drug store.

One of those will have a better update schedule...

:p
 
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Well the bummer about that is is that Apple doesn't support anything but the current OS that they are delivering to users. They cut of all ability to load an older OS. A marketing standpoint when you force people to move forward with no choice of course you're going to have a adoption rates does it mean that people want those features or need them.
 
Well the bummer about that is is that Apple doesn't support anything but the current OS that they are delivering to users. They cut of all ability to load an older OS. A marketing standpoint when you force people to move forward with no choice of course you're going to have a adoption rates does it mean that people want those features or need them.
I get your point and do agree that Apple should allow the user to go back to an earlier version if he or she is willing to accept the risk. You don't have to update the OS, though. Many around here stay on the same OS.
 
Just that unlock phone with watch while masked was a year too late. Still iOS 14 had a good run.
 
This data is largely irrelevant. A proper comparison would be top tier android devices (Samsung, huawei, xiomi, etc) versus their Apple counterparts. Which as an owner of a galaxy s10 I have to say get their updates pretty much as frequently as the iOS devices

Far from irrelevant to ANYBODY walking through the line of painsticks that is development on Android.
 
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Google used to publish version distribution stats for Android but it looks like that's no longer available to the public, just to developers.

Here's a peek at where things were in Feb.

It's a disservice of Google for not publishing that numbers publicly anymore. It only speaks that Google is trying to hide it. Google should've just come clean and even expose OEMs who are lagging behind (even in security patches), and their length of support (aside from Samsung and previously Huawei, most OEMs only give you 1 or 2 major OS upgrade at best, regardless of the price point). If Google cared about Android users, they should've show this numbers and make a top 10 OEMs who has the shortest or slowest upgrade timeline. That way consumers can have a more educated decision, and it will push OEMs to do better.

But no. Now some Chinese OEMs like Oppo starts to sell $1000 phones with just 1 or 2 years of software support. Consumers get tricked with the fancy spec list and marketing. That's just sad.
 
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It's kind of easy when you force adoption by not signing older versions of the software.

And yet EVERY iOS version since iOS 4 has maintained above 80% for devices 4yrs or more recent - every iOS version. So if majority of iOS users are still upgrading nobody is staying behind in heavily significant amounts. Apple has, prior to iOS 10 allowed a month or more before no longer signing older updates. Since iOS 12 it’s been weeks or less in that practice.
 
I have an 11 Prp Max and I’m still one of those still on IOS13. Honestly the software works as intended so I don’t really care to update. Plus I’m probably gonna a get the next iPhone so it’ll come with the new software built in lol
 
My iPad Pro 11" 2020 to (Cellular) is still running iPadOS 13. Decided not to update to iPadOS 14 after my 12 Pro Max had abnormal standby drain on iOS 14 from day 1. Don't have 5G on iPhone but it drains on 4G. Only way to stop battery drain was to put it in flight mode or use WiFi only. Somehow the isssue was resolved with iOS 14.4 on the iPhone. I don't want to deal with the same issue on my iPad especially because it is a cellular model and it might face same issue. On top of that iOS 14.6 is reported to cause battery drain for many.

So decided not to update both till iOS/iPadOS 15 comes out.
 
I’d like to think that the reason they are publishing this now is because there is so much to announce on Monday that they need to dispense with this sort of routine update.
I was thinking that too. They have been releasing a lot of stuff the last few weeks.
 
This data is largely irrelevant. A proper comparison would be top tier android devices (Samsung, huawei, xiomi, etc) versus their Apple counterparts. Which as an owner of a galaxy s10 I have to say get their updates pretty much as frequently as the iOS devices
Not really because Apple is put against all phones for sales.
 
I wonder if the persistent notifications until you upgrade have anything to do with it? ;)
 
This is something Apple has consistently done right. My #1 gripe with Android (from way back in pre-iPhone 7 days) was the lack of software and feature updates. I felt lucky to get a single OS upgrade in 2-3 years, but never expected one (and usually never got one).
Nowadays, at least with Samsung things are different. You get 3 OS upgrades + 2 years of security updates. Not as good as Apple, but things are improving. My year old Motorola ($100) has received security updates the entire time I've had it.
 
It's apparently because google f*cked up the way they do hardware drivers. I can't FTA now, but basically the mechanism isn't abstracted, which make it a ridiculous amount of work to handle android updates.

Google could come up with a better way, and could have (it's their software), but they just don't really care.

Edit: oh, might be an android problem haha.

The problem really has nothing to do with Google, and has everything to do with Linux (Linux is a kernel not an OS).

Linux drivers use the internal kernel APIs, which are not and have never been stable. They change with almost every release. Maintaining drivers for the Linux kernel is a full-time job, and something that Google likely doesn't have the inclination or the resources to do. Plus, on occasion the Linux devs have been known to remove important features from the kernel API, that they themselves don't use, but may be crucial to your driver (they have many times stated that they don't give two hoots about third party drivers, not in the Linux source tree). So, again, keeping a driver up to date in the Linux world can oftentimes mean a lot of work.

In a nutshell, the heart of the issue is that they use Linux. Darwin (the base for iOS, macOS, etc), has a much more stable kernel API (which they control), so for Apple, the job is dramatically simpler.
 
Not sure why they would expect different when the default is automatic upgrades (either via initial setup or popups) and make it impossible to roll back because previous versions are no longer signed.
 
Who cares if it's iOS 14 or 20 when it's still braindead and you can't place app icons anywhere on home screen like towards the bottom for one-handed reachability, can't split screen multitask, no pen support, lack of freedom to install apps like emulators/torrent clients/Kodi/etc., can't sideload apps like Fortnite, etc.
 
This is something Apple has consistently done right. My #1 gripe with Android (from way back in pre-iPhone 7 days) was the lack of software and feature updates. I felt lucky to get a single OS upgrade in 2-3 years, but never expected one (and usually never got one).
Agreed. It's the No. 1 reason why I'm replacing my S8 with an iPhone. Yes, Google (for the Pixel) and Samsung say they'll be providing at least three years of upgrades from now on. But that doesn't mean they'll be pushed in a timely manner even for unlocked devices -- or at all, considering there's nothing contractual to force them to make good on that promise.
 
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