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iOS 15 makes iPhone XS feel overall sluggish

Enimpy said:
Is it possible that they know nothing about this problem?
I just can’t believe that they know the issues we’re facing, but they’re doing nothing about it.
As an iPhone user since years, I never faced something like this. Every big bug that I encountered has been resolved, every glitch fixed.
This Problem — with a capital P — goes on since the first iOS 15 Beta. That means June! It’s almost 2022! We’re in iOS 15.3b1 and nothing, I say NOTHING, has changed!
I just can’t understand.
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They know... The problem is that Apple fans keep buying Apple products despite these shady practices. Vote with your money and Apple will stop acting this way.
 
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DarkRoad said:
Yes, it is ridiculous already. I wonder what exactly the QC team is doing all those months before a final release. Aren’t they using the phones? Is nobody testing the firmware on a daily basis? How can this obvious bug slip through? The animations and touch sensitivity are the most important aspects of user experience, it all starts here. If those are working like crap, how can someone enjoy using a device?
Where is the flawless animation that Apple was known for?
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It's on Android.
 
AppleShareholder said:
They want you to buy the latest iPhone. It won't be fixed.
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Well there was a bug in ios 14 till around 14.5 or 14.6 where my iPhone got quite hot, had 100% cpu utilization and they fixed that.
And to be honest, with ios 14 my 7 felt like when I bought it back in the day with iOS 10. It held up really good.
 
AppleShareholder said:
This is wrong. Samsung devices run smooth even after 3 years. I have an S10 and iPhone 11, and the S10 is smoother than the iPhone 11, which is now a laggy mess after iOS 15. So much for "better software support". I'd rather have no updates than malware.

This is an Apple-only problem. If any Android manufacturers pulled the same stunt, there would be boycotts.
Apple fans are more forgiving of Apple's shady practices, so Apple has good reason to want to slow down older devices. One the other hand, Android customers are very critical about each manufacturer and hold no brand loyalty, so there is no incentive to pursue the same type of practices Apple employs unless that manufacturer wants to be out of business in 1 year.
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A friend of mine has a one year old pixel 5 and it has lags. I was like wtf this is a much newer phone than mine and it lags?!?
 
Lubidubi said:
Well there was a bug in ios 14 till around 14.5 or 14.6 where my iPhone got quite hot, had 100% cpu utilization and they fixed that.
And to be honest, with ios 14 my 7 felt like when I bought it back in the day with iOS 10. It held up really good.
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Funny how this is a recurring issue with every single Apple product including the "superior" M1 Macs that I'm currently using. Let's just say the performance is less than stellar and far beneath the i5-8400 with GTX 1050 ti that reviewers supposedly said the M1 was supposed to beat.
Windows and Android never have issues where the device slows down over time.

I think this is far from a coincidence.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Funny how this is a recurring issue with every single Apple product including the "superior" M1 Macs that I'm currently using. Let's just say the performance is less than stellar and far beneath the i5-8400 with GTX 1050 ti that reviewers supposedly said the M1 was supposed to beat.
Windows and Android never have issues where the device slows down over time.

I think this is far from a coincidence.
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Yeah sure Windows never slows down haha best joke ever. I work in the IT business for 30 years and deal with windows every day. And the only os which does not slow down over time is linux and macos.
Windows is really a mess.
 
Lubidubi said:
Yeah sure Windows never slows down haha best joke ever. I work in the IT business for 30 years and deal with windows every day. And the only os which does not slow down over time is linux and macos.
Windows is really a mess.
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Macs definitely do slow down over time. People just like to keep their Macs clean and then compare them with a cheap Windows PC that's been abused for years.
You're comparing a clean $1500 Mac with a $500 Windows laptop pre-installed with spyware from your employer. It's not a fair comparison.

Compare a clean $1500 Mac with a clean $1500 Windows and the Windows PC will smoke the Mac.
My 5-year-old PC with i5-8400 and GTX 1050 ti never had to be reformatted or reset to factory defaults in its lifetime and has gone through multiple OS updates and tons of abuse, yet performance is still stellar. I'm running a 3440 x 1440p display at 144 hz and everything is super smooth. The only difference between this windows PC and the one I use for work is that I don't install spyware and crapware on my personal PC and run like 1000 processes to encrypt every single file on the computer.
A clean Windows PC will always trounce a clean Mac on a dollar-per-dollar basis.

For example, this brand new M1 Mac that I'm currently using is a sack of turd. This computer can't even browse 4chan on its Christmas-style theme without lagging and stuttering like a 10-year-old Android phone.
If it's performing this badly already, I can't imagine how bad it'll perform once future updates come with Apple's custom-designed malware.
 
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The business desktops and notebooks I deal with every day, arent those cheap hp pavilions for 500$. These are business laptops / desktops, which are in the same range as macs are. Bigger companies do deploy their machines with windows from scratch (sccm) there is no preinstalled junk on it. And still.. after 1 year of getting several security and function updates and so on, they do not feel the same as when they were set up the first time. And I didn‘t start talking about all these nasty little problems windows comes up with. Where you need to restage the hole machine, cause this monthly security update wont install, despite you tried every possible fix out here.
There must be a good reason why IBM dumped a big portion of its windows machines for macs. Cause they have much less support tickets with them.

So lets stop it here and back to topic 🙂
 
vtuberalpha said:
That name of yours sure is ironic considering your statements.
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It is not. When I was a shareholder, I was in favor of Apple's planned obsolescence strategy, as it boosted their top and bottom lines. However, I got out of Apple back in late 2019 and went all-in on TSLA. I am no longer an AAPL shareholder.
As a consumer, I do not support Apple's strategy of releasing malware updates to cripple older devices, and neither should you.
 
AppleShareholder said:
It is not. When I was a shareholder, I was in favor of Apple's planned obsolescence strategy, as it boosted their top and bottom lines. However, I got out of Apple back in late 2019 and went all-in on TSLA. I am no longer an AAPL shareholder.
As a consumer, I do not support Apple's strategy of releasing malware updates to cripple older devices, and neither should you.
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So you as a former shareholder know that Apple do these planned obsolescence practices through presumably insider knowledge as one?

If this is the case, it would be really interesting to get a deeper insight into this.
 
Lubidubi said:
The business desktops and notebooks I deal with every day, arent those cheap hp pavilions for 500$. These are business laptops / desktops, which are in the same range as macs are. Bigger companies do deploy their machines with windows from scratch (sccm) there is no preinstalled junk on it. And still.. after 1 year of getting several security and function updates and so on, they do not feel the same as when they were set up the first time. And I didn‘t start talking about all these nasty little problems windows comes up with. Where you need to restage the hole machine, cause this monthly security update wont install, despite you tried every possible fix out here.
There must be a good reason why IBM dumped a big portion of its windows machines for macs. Cause they have much less support tickets with them.

So lets stop it here and back to topic 🙂
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I seriously doubt your story. No company would not install bloatware on their laptops. That is common operating procedure at any company to encrypt data on the fly and spy on their users.

Also, IBM gave their workers the option of choosing Macs and Windows. The reason why costs went down is that only Mac users would select Macs and so are in an environment they're familiar with. In a workplace and uses only Windows, people familiar with Macs would be unfamiliar with Windows so they would encounter more problems. It has nothing to do with any difference in functionality or stability of one OS over another but about familiarity with an OS.
If I was forced to use Macs at work, I would be bothering my IT department 100X more.
 
vtuberalpha said:
So you as a former shareholder know that Apple do these planned obsolescence practices through presumably insider knowledge as one?

If this is the case, it would be really interesting to get a deeper insight into this.
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Not insider knowledge. It's obvious that Apple is crippling older devices, as Windows and Android don't have the same problem. Only Apple is the odd one out.
 
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AppleShareholder said:
I seriously doubt your story. No company would not install bloatware on their laptops. That is common operating procedure at any company to encrypt data on the fly and spy on their users.
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AppleShareholder said:
Also, IBM gave their workers the option of choosing Macs and Windows. The reason why costs went down is that only Mac users would select Macs and so are in an environment they're familiar with. In a workplace and uses only Windows, people familiar with Macs would be unfamiliar with Windows so they would encounter more problems. It has nothing to do with any functionality or stability of one OS to another but about familiarity with an OS.
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Haha its getting rediculous in here „i doubt your story“ 😂😂😂😁 fake news 😂😂😂😂😂😂 well, believe in what you want then.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Not insider knowledge. It's obvious that Apple is crippling older devices, as Windows and Android don't have the same problem. Only Apple is the odd one out.
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You sold all your Apple stock, did you also sell all your Apple gear? Or is it a case where you are all bluster and no substance.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Not insider knowledge. It's obvious that Apple is crippling older devices, as Windows and Android don't have the same problem. Only Apple is the odd one out.
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Doesn't it seem paradoxical that the same Apple that according to you "cripples" older devices has also introduced those same lag issues on even the latest 13s?

That just sounds like a buggy, unoptimized OS to me.
 
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Taz Mangus said:
You sold all your Apple stock, did you also sell all your Apple gear? Or is it a case where you are all bluster and no substance.
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I had an iPhone 11 I was still using.
I bought an iMac a few weeks back, because of the supposed "great" M1 chip. Very disappointing performance.

I'm not falling for Apple hype again. I will be using only Windows and Android going forward.
 
vtuberalpha said:
Doesn't it seem paradoxical that the same Apple that according to you "cripples" older devices has also introduced those same lag issues on even the latest 13s?

That just sounds like a buggy, unoptimized OS to me.
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I am not experiencing any lagging on my 13 Pro Max using iOS 15.2.
vtuberalpha said:
Doesn't it seem paradoxical that the same Apple that according to you "cripples" older devices has also introduced those same lag issues on even the latest 13s?

That just sounds like a buggy, unoptimized OS to me.
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I am not experiencing any lag issues on my 13 Pro Max running iOS 15.2. Animations and scrolling is very smooth.
 
AppleShareholder said:
Not insider knowledge. It's obvious that Apple is crippling older devices, as Windows and Android don't have the same problem. Only Apple is the odd one out.
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It was proven that they used do this but they were sued because of it. I doubt they are still up to the old tricks. It is probably related to bugs and other issues with lack of performance optimizations in play. It could also be the phone aging. I know it may seem hard to believe but CPUs of all kind will slow down with age because of their physical nature. Unfortunately there is not much that anyone can do about it either, it just happens.
 
vtuberalpha said:
Doesn't it seem paradoxical that the same Apple that according to you "cripples" older devices has also introduced those same lag issues on even the latest 13s?

That just sounds like a buggy, unoptimized OS to me.
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It is not paradoxical.
Apple needs to sell their higher-end and higher margin Pro models.
 
AppleShareholder said:
I had an iPhone 11 I was still using.
I bought an iMac a few weeks back, because of the supposed "great" M1 chip. Very disappointing performance.

I'm not falling for Apple hype again. I will be using only Windows and Android going forward.
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So good luck then and stop spaming in here.
 
Taz Mangus said:
I am not experiencing any lagging on my 13 Pro Max using iOS 15.2.

I am not experiencing any lag issues on my 13 Pro Max running iOS 15.2. Animations and scrolling is very smooth.
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Because you are on the Pro model.
Apple needs to convince people to move to the Pro models and laggy UI on the Non-Pro model is how they're doing it.
Don't get too comfortable. I would start worrying about lag once the iPhone 14 gets announced.
 
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