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That's the "throw the baby out with the bath water" crowd mentality. Since it isn't perfect, might as tear down the walls and let 'er rip...instead of a more rational approach of what needs to be done to improve it.

Apple rejects roughly 35% of App Store submissions, around 1.7 million for 2017, 2018, and 2019. And 2 million rejected apps for 2020. Many for privacy/security issues.

Should the recently proposed legislation permitting side-loading of Apple phones become law, it will be interesting (and yes, amusing) watching all those moaning about stolen data/credentials/money, malware, bricked iPhones, etc.
 
We're not even safe from fonts!
Fonts have actually been a fairly common source of exploits on many platforms, in the past.

If the New AMD graphics chip with Ray Tracing used in Samsung Galaxy S22 phones and future phones turns out to be AWESOME I won't have to deal with IOS 15 other than an iPad.
And that's related how? Exploits happen on all platforms.

Well that statement right there pretty much blows a whole in their entire App Store-Is-A-Safe-Walled-Garden narrative.
No it doesn't, because this is not a problem with any app on the app store.
 
Apple rejects roughly 35% of App Store submissions, around 1.7 million for 2017, 2018, and 2019. And 2 million rejected apps for 2020. Many for privacy/security issues.

Should the recently proposed legislation permitting side-loading of Apple phones become law, it will be interesting (and yes, amusing) watching all those moaning about stolen data/credentials/money, malware, bricked iPhones, etc.
I can't tell you the number of times Apple rejected our submissions because they were too lazy/incompetent to read the notes or even simple stuff like typing in the username for the test account correctly. I one time had to escalate a review 3 times because each person dropped the ball along the way and finally the third reviewer was like yea this should have been approved.

What's worse is that there is absolutely no employee ID or some sort of identifier to report useless reviewers. I understand and appreciate the need for the review system but ever since kovid its been an absolute mess. This is why I no longer support work from home.
 
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So you're saying that if there's a hole in the garden's wall, we might as well just break the entire wall down?
Yeah I just don’t understand this logic. Even though iOS has some problems, that doesn’t mean the walled garden helps a lot. It could be A LOT worse.
 
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So have they fixed the latest bug? Is this Apple patting themselves on the back for being reactive in the past? So, have they fixed WebKit? This document doesn't seem to address it.

Odd they would release this after the disclosure of the WebKit bug?
 
So they fixed these but left the webkit vulnerability untouched? ?‍♂️

Stop spending money on Apple TV+ and spend a little on your OS's.
 
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It boggles my mind why people don't update their software. In today's world, security flaws should be the number one reason to update.
Because sometimes the update breaks things or the previous security flaw isn't as severe as the security flaw in the update. Also with Apple reverting back to a previous OS may not be possible at the time a security flaw is announced.
So sometimes not updating at least not right away is the best option.
Apple isn't the only ones that break stuff. Microsoft still does. Just like the update from about a week ago that broke your VPN connection.
 
the lack of transparency from Apple is sometimes really astonishing
I Agree..... Apple says it doesn't track data. Now, seems search history could be stolen. Apple is the biggest lier in the room, at least Facebook is honest with their data business.
 
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Would the battery still die if you use it plugged in? Or would you suffer the third degree burns until the phone explodes?
The phone would melt and make a hole in the floor. Scientists are already comparing what's hotter, the sun or the Samsung Galaxy S22 when playing games, the Galaxy is winning.
 
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Yep. Agree with the overall sentiment but the choice becomes tricky when you know that Apple plan to deliberately compromise future updates and potentially cave into state pressure to exploit them at a later time. You can’t roll back once they stop signing older versions.
Apple does not "plan to deliberately compromise future updates and potentially cane into state pressure to exploit them at a later time". Where do you even get that from? If you're referring to CSAM that's not the case, and you have misunderstood the feature. Also, it's already in the iOS 14 code, it was just planned to be enabled by the time iOS 15 was launched, but if you're on iOS 14, you already have CSAM installed on your phone.
 
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Totally agree. This is why I am not updating to iOS 15, at least not until Apple commit to removing the CSAM spying software from the operating system.
It's already on iOS 14, it was not released with iOS 15, but it was planned to be enabled by the time iOS 15 was released. If you have iOS 14 you already have CSAM installed. Also, this whole CSAM scanning controvercy is completely overblown and misunderstood.
 
Go look at the iOS15 Safari privacy bug that has not been fixed yet. Meanwhile, it doesn't affect iOS14 users.
iOS 14 is riddled with other security issues/bugs and privacy flaws that was patched in iOS 15. I don't understand you guys, what's your plan? Staying on iOS 14 forever? Are you gonna refuse iOS 16 as well? If you care about privacy and security, update your software. Security flaws is the number one reason people get hacked and ransomwared.
 
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Steven made bank! We all know Apple loves him, so he’s gonna be compensated for finding such a severe security issue. Well this definitely makes Craig’s argument that iOS is more secure than macOS.

I can see macOS with its arms fold, saying ‘What were you saying about my security issues again?’ ???
 
It boggles my mind why people don't update their software. In today's world, security flaws should be the number one reason to update.
Maybe because this security issue was caused by the update. No mention of this bug in iOS14. It should be obvious when you introduce new features, you also introduce new bugs.

I prefer old software for this reason. Most of it's vulnerablities are known and can be patched/avoided. As someone who want's stability over new hotness, old OS is the best OS. Once you find the one that works best for you, you don't want to upgrade unless necessary.
 
It's already on iOS 14, it was not released with iOS 15, but it was planned to be enabled by the time iOS 15 was released. If you have iOS 14 you already have CSAM installed.
This was never confirmed and is speculation. Code was found but its purpose wasn't necessarily for this.
 
This year iOS 15 was an alpha version when it was released, so many bugs and issue during these mounths.

I'll never install again a new version of iOS or MacOS until xx.1 version is out :)
 
I updated to iOS 15 and want to let everyone know I'm really steamed my phone works as expected with no issues.
 
Maybe because this security issue was caused by the update. No mention of this bug in iOS14. It should be obvious when you introduce new features, you also introduce new bugs.

I prefer old software for this reason. Most of it's vulnerablities are known and can be patched/avoided. As someone who want's stability over new hotness, old OS is the best OS. Once you find the one that works best for you, you don't want to upgrade unless necessary.
I agree, a feature locked OS that only gets bug fixes is the most stable and safe OS you can use. Just look at the OS running on the Mars Rover with a PowerPC G3 put on Mars in 2020 - it's patched and fixed to the point it is basically fail safe, and it has to be when it's rolling around on Mars. But here on earth, for people, feature-locking means no advancements at all, and I don't know about you, but I don't feel like being stuck in 1999 running MAC OS 9 on old but true and tested hardware in the name of no bugs. You want youtube in 4k? You want streaming? you want Airdrop, handover, iphones and wireless headphones, gigabit speeds, then there will be bugs. Also, old OS doesn't mean all vulnerabilities and bugs have been patched. Most old software never gets fixed completely before moving on to the next major version.

Update your software guys :)
 
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