I have downloaded iOS 16.4, and added MacRumors to my Home Screen. How do I get notification from this site? Under Focus safari don’t seem to appear, neither under notifications
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iOS 16.4 and iPadOS 16.4 Betas Add Support for Web Push Notifications
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Would rather that than a blanket allow/deny choice. I mostly deny them on desktop, but some I want to get them.
This is great. We make process automation software (free version here if you want to check it out) and I've been postponing a native app with the hope that the web app would finally be able to do everything people want. People want to be notified, for example, about task assignment or process completion.
Native notifications in mobile safari are the final piece. Just like that, I can take an iOS native app off the roadmap.
Native notifications in mobile safari are the final piece. Just like that, I can take an iOS native app off the roadmap.
It should take less than a second to set up, because the Web Push API is universal and most websites already added support for it when they have Chrome etc push notifications (and Safari as of Monterey?). It should just work for anyone on 16.4 if Apple doesn‘t require extra flavor.
I‘m sure I’m being paranoid, but I hope this doesn’t encourage companies to drop their apps. I really don’t want an iPhone that just runs everything in a browser.
Hopefully it is better than on Safari on macOS, because even with Safari 16 on macOS 13, you cannot turn it off. Request are still coming in.
Notifications are just one small part of an app. Web apps are extremely limited compared to standalone apps so I wouldn't worry about that
a big Apple roadblock removed.
awesome and LONG overdue! (from a regulatory perspective)
crossplatform devs rejove
and users get more choice.
Now I can pin a WebApp that is far less tracking invasive and more trustworthy in some cases than official/unofficial apps.
And for those who don't want it, simply don't install and use it.
Nothing changes for you.
awesome and LONG overdue! (from a regulatory perspective)
crossplatform devs rejove
and users get more choice.
Now I can pin a WebApp that is far less tracking invasive and more trustworthy in some cases than official/unofficial apps.
And for those who don't want it, simply don't install and use it.
Nothing changes for you.
If trust in the company is the issue, they can get less from you via the app than they can from the web. Apple at least makes them tell you what data they’re collecting. Someone could make, say, a process automation website that’s capturing more than any App would be able to.
The web is where “invasive tracking” came from. And still resides. This doesn’t change that.
The trick then is to install an adblocker and instead use the annoyances filter and get comfortable with the selection picker.
I’ve had to do this for those insistent “sign in with Google” and “Google recommends chrome” and “Bing recommends Edge” and “please confirm your cookie preferences for the 10,000,587,334th time” popups. We as a society agreed in the 90’s this was nonsense that must be gotten rid of and now we’re racing back to it
Read the article! It’s only for webpages you pin to your springboard.
Maybe, yeah.. although many apps you could use this for, like Twitter etc., are already free.
it’s actually been a part of safari on the Mac since back in 2013 with Mavericks.
Yes, almost a decade before it’s finally reached iOS
Not with the open web push standard. Before that it was only Apples own baked APNS that required you to get a developer license.
Just checked, the first text block here suggests it was only introduced as of Safari 16 in macOS 13: https://developer.apple.com/documen...sh_notifications_in_safari_and_other_browsers
AFAIK, it's because webapps would need to be pretty advanced and much harder for a lot of websites/apps to make the cut. They need to be designed as a PWA (Progressive Web App) and have something called a ServiceWorker which are dormant when you're not in the webapp/site but can wake up and send notifications when they come in remotely
Yea it's rate I see a mobile site better than the app. The only app I can currently think of that's garbage is KFC. For some reason it always says the PW is wrong even though it works fine in the browser.
This is fully controllable. As stated, you have to add the website to the home screen as a shortcut through the share sheet. Then you will need to say yes to receive notifcations if implemented through the web app. Then can set specific notification options afterwards.
I am not sure what developers of websites will need to do to allow this or implement a function to ask users to allow notifications. But I think it may have to be similar to the way Microsoft has implemented cloud gaming on its Xbox website For iOS users.
You cannot cloud game through the Xbox app downloaded through the App Store like you can on android. You have to do it through the Xbox website.
As below, when going to the Xbox cloud gaming website, it is a requirement that you add the website to the home screen before you can cloud game.
Once this has been done, when opening the short cut on the Home Screen, this opens within its own self contained web app, it does not open in safari as a tab like other sites that you add to the Home Screen via the share sheet. This is shown in the shots below. One is the Xbox cloud gaming site added to the Home Screen, the other is the Xbox store. As you can see, the cloud gaming site opens in its own environment, whereas the store site opens within safari.
This behaviour is also not affected by which browser you have set as your default browser. Opening the cloud gaming site will still open in its own environment where’s the Xbox store opens in DuckDuckGo Browser.
Just as a note, this has been the case before I installed the iOS 16.4 beta as I have used cloud gaming for a while. I am glad though that Apple will now allow third party browsers the implement the ‘add to Home Screen‘ option through the share sheet. This will make using third party browsers easier to stop using safari altogether if that is your choice, as you can add apps/shortcuts to Home Screen without having to open safari when needing to do so.
As I said, I am not sure if this behaviour I have outlined is what is needed for a website to implement the notification option, maybe a seasoned site developer can advise.
Cheers.
I am not sure what developers of websites will need to do to allow this or implement a function to ask users to allow notifications. But I think it may have to be similar to the way Microsoft has implemented cloud gaming on its Xbox website For iOS users.
You cannot cloud game through the Xbox app downloaded through the App Store like you can on android. You have to do it through the Xbox website.
As below, when going to the Xbox cloud gaming website, it is a requirement that you add the website to the home screen before you can cloud game.
Once this has been done, when opening the short cut on the Home Screen, this opens within its own self contained web app, it does not open in safari as a tab like other sites that you add to the Home Screen via the share sheet. This is shown in the shots below. One is the Xbox cloud gaming site added to the Home Screen, the other is the Xbox store. As you can see, the cloud gaming site opens in its own environment, whereas the store site opens within safari.
This behaviour is also not affected by which browser you have set as your default browser. Opening the cloud gaming site will still open in its own environment where’s the Xbox store opens in DuckDuckGo Browser.
Just as a note, this has been the case before I installed the iOS 16.4 beta as I have used cloud gaming for a while. I am glad though that Apple will now allow third party browsers the implement the ‘add to Home Screen‘ option through the share sheet. This will make using third party browsers easier to stop using safari altogether if that is your choice, as you can add apps/shortcuts to Home Screen without having to open safari when needing to do so.
As I said, I am not sure if this behaviour I have outlined is what is needed for a website to implement the notification option, maybe a seasoned site developer can advise.
Cheers.
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😮 you’re phone might explode if you turn them on for MacRumors 🤣
Hopefully Apple has an easy way to turn off those nag messages from websites asking users to turn on notifications.