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Still on iOS 15.5 for a 13 mini bought in April 2022.

And I'm not going to update.

Only a gullible person can follow Apple in its “slow and kill” policy distributed via compromised sw (iOS 15 lost 1500 points in performance on the same device between the first and last versions, in less than a year).
To this is added the total lack of seriousness of a company that introduces a system and then destroys it when it has not yet distributed it over the entire range (Notch), introducing an epic junk (DI) on A SINGLE VERSION OF A DEVICE, throwing the user experience in the trash, especially on old devices that are born with the previous technology and find themselves having to integrate solutions suitable for the current technology (an example of all, notifications in reverse on all iPhones that are not 14 Pro but that use iOS 16).
It's okay to be fooled, but there's a limit to everything. Then with the ridiculous prices that Apple has outside the States, it is better for individual countries to start hitting it with injunctions and limitations, at least some of that money will make someone happy not in Cupertino. XD
 
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Seems they are too busy having fun with karaoke... IMO iOS 16 is a bit of a hot mess.
And that's only for a very select few. At least when it comes to AppleTV. Why is it when things come to an absolute mess, the people on the front-line seem to turn to song and dance? I think they've been watching too many musicals?

As a lifelong late adopter and current 24%er, I must again express my gratitude to the vast numbers of unpaid beta testers who find and publicize the bug-features, much to my benefit.

😘
Agreed. I have no urge to update my phone or iPad Pro. I'm sitting this one out until at least .3 if not .4. Them killing off updates to my 2016 MBP made that decision very easy. I have all devices running "the same generation" of OS.
 
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Every year Macrumors loves to talk about the "percentage" of devices on which iOSx is installed and compare it relentlessly with the past, without the slightest bit of acknowledgement of the fact that the installed base of devices grows significantly every year. By tens of millions at least, if not hundreds of millions.

70% of all devices this year is probably equivalent to 80% of all devices last year, if not more. You can't compare YoY statistics like this without qualifying that the installed base has changed...and not just changed, but grown significantly.
 
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With battery problems and some stutters in animation now being solved (for me at least), and Notification Centre "always hidden" solved in 16.2 RC, I'm now glad to use iOS 16. It took two dotreleases but okay.
Speaking of animations, will Apple ever fix the scroll stutter on their 120Hz devices? Any time I pick up a 60 Hz iPhone and scroll something, I marvel at how consistent scrolling used to look. On every one of their 120 Hz devices, scroll stutter is insufferable. I know they are attempting to change the refresh rate on the fly and they are just not doing a good job of it, at all.
 
Every year Macrumors loves to talk about the "percentage" of devices on which iOSx is installed and compare it relentlessly with the past, without the slightest bit of acknowledgement of the fact that the installed base of devices grows significantly every year. By tens of millions at least, if not hundreds of millions.

70% of all devices this year is probably equivalent to 80% of all devices last year, if not more. You can't compare YoY statistics like this without qualifying that the installed base has changed...and not just changed, but grown significantly.

Since these percentages only look at eligible devices, which typically means those released within the past six years. numbers wouldn’t necessarily grow "significantly" each year as it depends on how sales were for each prior six year period. Global iPhone sales declined starting in 2016 and didn't reach 2015 level again until last year.

If 2022 sales end up the same as last year, which was a record year for iPhone unit sales, device sales for the past six years (2017 to 2022) would only be about 2.4% higher than device sales for last year's prior six years (2016 to 2021). This would mean that only around 2.4% more devices would be eligible for the latest iOS this year which is not significantly higher than the number eligible last year.
 
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Since these percentages only look at eligible devices, which typically means those released within the past six years. numbers wouldn’t necessarily grow "significantly" each year as it depends on how sales were for each prior six year period. Global iPhone sales declined starting in 2016 and didn't reach 2015 level again until last year.

If 2022 sales end up the same as last year, which was a record year for iPhone unit sales, device sales for the past six years (2017 to 2022) would only be about 2.4% higher than device sales for last year's prior six years (2016 to 2021). This would mean that only around 2.4% more devices would be eligible for the latest iOS this year which is not significantly higher than the number eligible last year.
:oops: What the heck are you talking about. Apple sold approximately 260 million iPhones in their last fiscal year. Are you trying to suggest that 97% of those devices replaced an otherwise eligible device (for the current OS). That's crazy. And doesn't even jive with what Apple says about the volume of switchers to iPhone. The number of eligible devices for the current OS grows substantially every quarter.
 
Did we have a choice BUT to upgrade? I remember forgetting to upgrade to iOS 15- my phone became slow, laggy and at times unresponsive. This is Apples way of reminding us to upgrade either our phone or software.
How would they have caused your phone to become slow, laggy and unresponsive if you didn’t install the new software?

Most likely something else caused it.
 
:oops: What the heck are you talking about. Apple sold approximately 260 million iPhones in their last fiscal year. Are you trying to suggest that 97% of those devices replaced an otherwise eligible device (for the current OS). That's crazy. And doesn't even jive with what Apple says about the volume of switchers to iPhone. The number of eligible devices for the current OS grows substantially every quarter.

What I am saying is that while there a new "latest iOS" eligible devices sold each year, there are also old devices that drop off the eligibility list each year. So, if Apple had sold 1.27 billion devices between 2016 and 2021 that were eligible for iOS 15.x updates last year and sold 1.3 billion devices between 2017 and 2022 that are eligible for iOS 16.x updates this year, the number of potentially eligible devices for this year's latest iOS only increased by around 2.4% versus last year. It all depends on how sales were the prior six years and Apple can have down sales years e.g., 2016 to 2020 annual iPhone unit sales were lower than 2015.
 
My current iPhone is 13 PM, running on iOS 16. And my other 2 retired iPhones (X and 12 Pro) are still on 14.8.2. I don't have the heart to update iPhone X but recently have been thinking about iOS 16 on 12 Pro...
 
Amazing the uptake for an update that has had some noticeable issues since launch.

I remember we used to get harassed and nagged to upgrade but I haven't seen my phone or iPad be that pushy in a long time. No, I don't notice any lag or problems if I don't upgrade.
Apple apparently knows iOS 16 is still "rough" or they may have just decided not to do the pushy thing. I was planning on diving in at 16.2, but may wait a bit still based on the comments in the thread here.
 
What I am saying is that while there a new "latest iOS" eligible devices sold each year, there are also old devices that drop off the eligibility list each year. So, if Apple had sold 1.27 billion devices between 2016 and 2021 that were eligible for iOS 15.x updates last year and sold 1.3 billion devices between 2017 and 2022 that are eligible for iOS 16.x updates this year, the number of potentially eligible devices for this year's latest iOS only increased by around 2.4% versus last year. It all depends on how sales were the prior six years and Apple can have down sales years e.g., 2016 to 2020 annual iPhone unit sales were lower than 2015.
It doesn't work that way. You're assuming that all of the devices sold during x period are still in use at the time they are cut off from software updates 6+ years later, making for a giant chunk of eligible phones that are dropped, and only offset by the sheer volume of new customers/switchers/upgrades from ineligible. And that's not the case at all. Far from it. Only a fraction of those devices are actually still in use at the time that they are cut off from updates, the rest have been replaced at some point by a newer device. And when they are replaced by new devices, the installed base of eligible phones (IBOEP) increases, the same as if they were sold to a new customer/switcher.

Each year the IBOEP increases when 1) oldest devices are upgraded, 2) new customers/switchers, and only decreases from oldest devices not upgraded and instead cut off.
 
Meanwhile, there are Android phones being released this month that don't run the current version of the OS and never will.
As someone who owns an S22U and an iPhone 13 Pro Max, the Android doesn't need to be updated like an iPhone. Google has decoupled most of the system apps from it's OS so they are just updated through the Play store unlike ios where you need the latest update to get those features.

Also security updates are delivered through Google Play Services which is regularly updated on phones dating 5 years.

There is also the fact that certain Android skins provide features even before they make into a newer Android. One UI and the Good Lock Module on Samsung has features which will take years to appear on iOS and stock Android.

I can program my S22U to only charge battery until 85% and cap it there until 7am at which point it refills the balance. I can program the AOD to only show specific notifications depending upon my locations. I get mail notifications when I am at work but once I go home, they are automatically replaced with news and other sports stuff I follow. Samsung keeps updating these features through their store while it would 100% need a system update on iOS.

I don't think people give Android the credit it deserves. Its so feature packed on its own, updates are really just an icing on the cake rather than a cake itself. My S22 Ultra got Android 13 last month almost 3 months after release but I barely notice much differences and its far more stable than the iOS 16 on my iPhone.
 
iOS 12 on my Xʀ and I’m not moving, Apple. Stop obliterating battery life with your pathetic, impossible-to-downgrade updates. iOS 12 on my 9.7-inch iPad Pro after... you forced me out of iOS 9 by deactivating it and disabling activation servers for A9 processors on iOS 9. iPadOS 15.6 forever on my brand new iPad Air 5 (which I bought because my 9.7-inch iPad Pro wasn’t perfect anymore)...
 
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Still on iOS 15.5 for a 13 mini bought in April 2022.

And I'm not going to update.

Only a gullible person can follow Apple in its “slow and kill” policy distributed via compromised sw (iOS 15 lost 1500 points in performance on the same device between the first and last versions, in less than a year).
Points in what?
 
Points in what?
Geekbench performance between iOS 15.0 and 15.5, 15.6/1 and 15.7/1 are worst. iOS 16 worst of every release of iOS 15.
For what? Karaoke? Naive iCloud criptation? Someone know that Apple, as every companies, is it obliged to cooperate with the authorities by delivering the data it has? Has anyone among the regular customers observed that data? Personally yes, and the only device that was saved by intrusions by authorities on my devices with CellBrite was an iPhone 4S with iOS beta. Everything else was decrypted or provided by Apple. Fortunately, I had nothing to hide, other than personal data of myself and my family members, now deposited for 20 years in the offices of the authorities despite being declared innocent.
So, why update? So Apple can slow down devices and make them incompatible from year to year with the previous sw (Reminder, Notes, etc), pushing to buy new junk at crazy prices? In 30 years of money to Apple I have given it, and I have made Apple sw updates: the devices worked best with native sws. Now not even that, since for a few years Apple has been releasing half-ends that it thinks it will end in a year and punctually in the end are just a cluster of bugs.
 
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