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With so many features with iOS16, I am sure I will skip this update till 16.2. It is going to be buggy as hell with 16 and 16.1
Or iOS 17. The last massive visual overhaul was iOS 7, and that ended up being a trainwreck. It took multiple full version releases to finally bring that animal under control. Hopefully we won't have a repeat this time.
 
Let's say I have two devices signed into iMessage, one of which is running iOS 16/macOS Ventura/etc, while the other has not yet been updated. If I send and then edit a message on the updated device, does my non-updated device say "Edited to [whatever]"? That's what I'd expect, but if anyone could confirm or deny that I'd appreciate it
 
Typical mostly useless Apple update. We still don’t even have a forward button.
We have to either long press and then press More and then type the name or copy the whole text and paste it instead of a simple forward button.

Apple has waaayyy too many steps for basic simple functions.

Just look how many steps it takes if you want to add someone who texted you to the address book or if you want to block a number that’s texting you.

Bad design that’s 8-10 years behind.
 
For years, the Messages app has had a weak spam blocking mechanism, and lately the spam sent out by email is not blocked at all, yes, Apple has not been able to come up with an "effective" solution, so I stopped using it a long time ago.
 
Or iOS 17. The last massive visual overhaul was iOS 7, and that ended up being a trainwreck. It took multiple full version releases to finally bring that animal under control. Hopefully we won't have a repeat this time.

i may be in the market soon for a 13 mini and honestly I’m considering getting it before September time just so that it doesn’t ship with iOS 16 out of the box. I’m intending to avoid 16 until just before 17, and so on and so forth. For me I think it’s going to be the way forward. I’m done beta testing production software for 10 months a year, year in year out.
 
Can apple please adopt swipe right on a message to reply to it.

Teams, signal and fb messenger all have this standard. I only noticed recently messages does not when trying to reply and I had to hold my finger on the message.
Agree. It’s so annoying. Why won’t they give in. The double tap and tap reply is horrible UX.
 
Agree. It’s so annoying. Why won’t they give in. The double tap and tap reply is horrible UX.
Seriously, double tap is no more cumbersome for me than a tap/hold/swip gesture. I don’t have need for alternative messaging so perhaps I’m just well adjusted to the current UX.
 
Undo send would have be great several years ago when I accidentally told my nephew about weekend water sports activities that I meant send to my BFF. Fortunately I was able to change the context to alcohol consumption - close call. Luckily no embrassassing head first impact photos and belly flops. 😝
 
I wonder how many people will abuse the edit and retract abilities as well? It's a great feature for accidental things but could also be used for more nefarious purposes.
 
I wonder how many people will abuse the edit and retract abilities as well? It's a great feature for accidental things but could also be used for more nefarious purposes.
I don’t understand this take at all. Facebook Messenger has the ability to delete messages and Discord has the ability to edit or delete messages, and neither of those apps are constrained by a time limit. It’s these unwarranted fearful takes that keep Apple from doing more with their apps.
 
RCS is a dumpster fire right now and Apple is wise to ignore it.
That's what Apple would like you to think, but it's not.

No matter what you personally think, by having Apple choose to only send messages using the extremely legacy SMS protocol is the absolute definition of lowest-common-denominator messaging in the least secure way.

It's morally and ethically wrong given that Apple touts how much they care about security and privacy and then forcibly choose to use the worst communication mechanism when dealing with anyone outside of the Apple bubble.

Just like the blue/green bubble psychological drama, it would be like emails going out from Apple being unencrypted by CHOICE. They don't even try to interface with RCS to make it secure (or in email: using TLS) -- and that's being absolutely hypocritical to even the Apple customers who send messages to Android as the security is lost.
 
That's what Apple would like you to think, but it's not.

No matter what you personally think, by having Apple choose to only send messages using the extremely legacy SMS protocol is the absolute definition of lowest-common-denominator messaging in the least secure way.

It's morally and ethically wrong given that Apple touts how much they care about security and privacy and then forcibly choose to use the worst communication mechanism when dealing with anyone outside of the Apple bubble.

Just like the blue/green bubble psychological drama, it would be like emails going out from Apple being unencrypted by CHOICE. They don't even try to interface with RCS to make it secure (or in email: using TLS) -- and that's being absolutely hypocritical to even the Apple customers who send messages to Android as the security is lost.
Sorry, but your comment is pure nonsense.
 
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Too bad they aren’t adding in delayed/scheduled send so you can compose a message then press-and-hold the send button and choose “Send in 10 minutes, Send in 1 hour, Custom”
 
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Sorry, but your comment is pure nonsense.
That's again what Apple wants you to think. If I'm wrong, show it.

Otherwise the "No, you're wrong!" counterargument is bollocks.

Apple has the opportunity to work with RCS and chooses not to. That puts Apple users into a unsecure state when communicating with non-Apple devices. There are a few billion of those.
 
Apple needs to allow third party messaging apps that replace iMessage and can be deleted. :rolleyes:
Agreed. With their influence - and many other reasons to remain within their highly profitable ecosystem - I can't really see how sharing some basics across multiple platforms hurt APPL.
 
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