Apple probably going to charge a fee for it to be „Apple verified“ to be able to run the IPA just how they charge for the verified deep linking outside of the store in the US now if I am not mistaken from a previous article on MR
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iOS 17.4 Coming Soon as iPhone App Sideloading Deadline in EU Nears
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Apple probably going to charge a fee for it to be „Apple verified“ to be able to run the IPA just how they charge for the verified deep linking outside of the store in the US now if I am not mistaken from a previous article on MR
MacRumors at its best: “There might be a 17.4 beta soon and 17.4 might do something for side-loading, but we don’t actually have any new information, not even rumors. Happily our readers still fall for the clickbaity title.”
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If you don't want to use it then that's totally fine but the whole point is giving customers the choice and not allowing Apple to have so much control. They only have it locked down to protect their ability to make money. Apple's defense is that is risks security which is true to a degree but it's not a high risk. If you download the apps from a trusted source (unless you think Apple is the only one to be trusted lol) then it'll be fine. In all my time sideloading apps on Android, Windows, and Mac it's never been an issue.
Hearing this makes me reminisce about the 'ol jailbreaking days I used to enjoy. I can't remember the name of this one app, but it would show a persistent notification at the top of your phone as one of your friends was typing an imessage or that they read it. So many other great little utility apps too, those were fun days.
I've got the nagging suspicion that Apple will try and make sideloading as awkward and unpleasant as possible to discourage places outside the EU from demanding it. 😅
Not EVERY OS. My dad has a Fire tablet (it was cheap, okay?) and it's totally locked down to Amazon apps and store. We did a bit of DIY to get the Google Play Store installed, as some of the apps my dad wanted were not in the Amazon store.
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Congratulations EU on your new freedom to choose which apps you want to install and buy them through Apple's App Store or direct from the app developer or in bundle offers developer might participate in at significant discounts.
Like you too, we Americans enjoy- and have always enjoyed- the very same flexibility for our Macs, which has NOT resulted in our destruction, evil crime syndicates bringing us to our knees, bank accounts emptied, first born taken into slavery, locusts-frogs-famine or 4 horsemen galloping our way. I expect this to play out exactly the same for EU iDevice owners.
I envy your access to a broader selection of iDevice apps and likely better pricing options through the powerful force of actual competition... the one crucial variable required to act as check & balance in the bargain struck between buyers & sellers. Where these is zero competition, seller gets very, very rich. Where there is tangible competition, buyers tend to get more value for their money.
We'll all see how this plays out for the EU soon. I completely suspect that just like the great wave or unfounded worry about the EU mandated USB-C port change right up to the iPhone 15 launch, you'll still be able to find lint in your pockets, your ports will not be wobbly and USB-C tongues will not be breaking off en masse. You would think "we" would have noticed that parallel ourselves... but it seems many of us have not. So thank you for showing us all yet again... soon.
Like you too, we Americans enjoy- and have always enjoyed- the very same flexibility for our Macs, which has NOT resulted in our destruction, evil crime syndicates bringing us to our knees, bank accounts emptied, first born taken into slavery, locusts-frogs-famine or 4 horsemen galloping our way. I expect this to play out exactly the same for EU iDevice owners.
I envy your access to a broader selection of iDevice apps and likely better pricing options through the powerful force of actual competition... the one crucial variable required to act as check & balance in the bargain struck between buyers & sellers. Where these is zero competition, seller gets very, very rich. Where there is tangible competition, buyers tend to get more value for their money.
We'll all see how this plays out for the EU soon. I completely suspect that just like the great wave or unfounded worry about the EU mandated USB-C port change right up to the iPhone 15 launch, you'll still be able to find lint in your pockets, your ports will not be wobbly and USB-C tongues will not be breaking off en masse. You would think "we" would have noticed that parallel ourselves... but it seems many of us have not. So thank you for showing us all yet again... soon.
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But if things go awry on Android, it’s not picked up by all the news outlets. When someone in the EU gets malware or an app that manages to do something unexpected, everyone around the globe will click on the headlines to read about whatever went wrong with the iPhone made my Apple.
Yes, and? There is no requirement to be able to develop apps for free.
As a former Apple technician, I would not be looking forward to this change. People would always come in running the Beta OS and complain about the bugs and such, was even worse when they would come in for a hardware repair and we couldn't service the device until it was downgraded. As a customer, very cool and happy to see these changes coming.
I am just trying to understand why any one would even bother with releasing apps outside of the AppStore if they need to pay Apple anyway. Doesn’t really seem to be thought through by the EU. Where is the incentive
This will mean extra work for Apple. The number of discontented users who install malware and want it fixed for no fee will make their shops very busy.
I only trust the App Store and pre-installed apps. All the pre-installed apps on my Windows PC are completely safe.
The EU is a trade organisation that strives for free and open markets between 27 nations. This is their primary driver, not an extra App Store I think.
All I want from this is a Gecko Firefox with extension support. If they can make that work I'll be happy. Saying that, I'm in the UK, so chances are now that we won't even get sideloading.
First, they don’t have to pay Apple for app purchases. Second, and more important in my view, Apple can’t forbid emulators, alternative browser engines, or any other specific kinds of applications anymore.
It is going to be fun. Sideloading opens up an avenue potential real app piracy like never before on iOS (besides, of course, Jailbreaking). I am curious to see all the indie and "one time purchase" app developers' opinions once the feature is available... There are benefits in a closed platform. Of course none of the big developers pushing for sideloading are touched by that because they offer subscription services. As for all the rest well.. Let's see. Also, these "modified packages" will probably contain a lot of dubious code, and probably malware...
Sideloading? You mean free installation of apps just like you can do on the Mac?
I trust open source software even more than App Store which contained some malicious apps in the past. Heck, it contains some shady Chinese apps still.
Looking forward to the passive aggressive malicious compliance of this sideloading from Apple to demonstrate US dominance, eventually forcing EU to kick Apple out.
Not only Apple would only do bare minimum, they will do it in the most malicious way possible to scare off as many users as possible.
Whatever EU regulators will do after that is anyone’s guess.
Not only Apple would only do bare minimum, they will do it in the most malicious way possible to scare off as many users as possible.
Whatever EU regulators will do after that is anyone’s guess.
These will still not be possible, the apps will still have the same restrictions current apps do.
Sideloading apps on a phone isn't mainstream anyway, I doubt my parents or even most of my coworkers even know it's doable on their Android phones - and once they know, most wouldn't care to do it, let alone understand how to remove basic roadblocks to make it possible and where to get the right APK to sideload it.
Of course you get the occasional person who complains letting them sideload a malicious app ruined their phone, but with free access comes personal responsability.
This said, I doubt we will ever see this level of free access on iOS - sideloaded apps are likely going to be heavily restricted in some way for "security reasons" once they're sideloaded, making them second-class in usage next to their app store counterparts.