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This is beyond unacceptable.

Luckily the only Apple device I sold was my previous 11” 2018 iPad Pro, there weren’t too many pictures taken (well, there actually were some of mine), and it was sold to a primary school girl with her mom, for her school homework.

I was relieved to find them as buyers because previous ones were weird and trying to pay me much less.

Now that I have this M2, I was a bit tempted to go for an M4 one but… not so sure anymore, with the grainy-gate, and now the possibility that any old photos of mine (on this device) could resurface.

I wonder if after restoring the device, if you download big garbage files to fill up the storage, if previous data will still be accessible afterwards
 
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Knowing nothing more than what is presented in this report, I would recommend everyone enable Advanced Data Protection immediately. If the data is end-to-end encrypted then you should be safe from whatever major bug is allowing old devices to pull these photos.
That’s what I would’ve thought, but until we know what the hell apple screwed up, how do we know it would even help? God this is just like Google’s update that was wiping people’s data out, except in reverse. Apparently Apple is no better than Google and their quality control doesn’t exist anymore.

And not just photos, but health data, business data, who knows what else. My 1Password database. Is any of it safe on an “erased” iPhone? We absolutely need to know, and silence is not an acceptable response.
 
So this bug is a blessing in disguise for us. It has exposed something sinister in Apple that we didn't know. Now Apple has to fix it, I hope.

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You do know that just because you can’t see a file in explorer on Windows it can still be at your hard drive? Not being able to “see” the file is a false security.
I know pretty well how operating systems work.

My point is, that if we had more eyes on the inner workings of the OS, interested people would poke around it and find problems in Apple's software more easily.
 
This will make people think twice about giving their old phone to their parent when they are done using it.
This is Apple's secret plan. Instead of owners giving away/selling their old iPhones and iPads when they upgrade, Apple wants everyone to buy new so owners won't have to worry about the new device owner unexpectedly having access to your old data/photos.

That's how you revive declining sales



 
Maybe old iCloud information is still floating around the Secure Enclave? It seems unlikely iOS is still able to recover photos from the internal memory once the old encryption key is trashed. If that doesn’t actually happen it’s really bad news.

Yes old data is there, but it’s encrypted and the old encryption key should have been forgotten. Rendering all old files an incoherent jumble of random data. That’s how it *should* work.
Exactly, *should* is the key word. In reality, we know that many things don't work as they should. If they did, there wouldn't be any bugs, especially security bugs that sometimes are discovered years later.
 
So maybe the device ID is linked to the Apple ID? And this update awakens the old Apple ID from a slumber via the device ID?

Or maybe it was never truly erased locally?

I remember in the old days with HDDs you could write zeroes to the disk to ensure the data was truly gone. But I guess that doesn't happen now with flash memory?
 
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