1) You don't ever type in your Passkey
2) Your private Passkey is stored on your device, not the site you're logging into
3) The website can get hacked and that never exposes your private Passkey
4) The Passkey isn't transmitted to the website when you log in
It’s backup up/synced to your iCloud account.
Absolutely, for now.So I still need to have an iCloud password ultimately
Only if you want it to. You don’t need either now.Will this replace the need for 1Password, BitWarden?
Passkey is 2FA as it’s something you have (the authorised device with the passkey) and something you are (Face ID or Touch ID) or something you know (device passcode).Forgot to ask, website with 2FA. Does the Passkey also support it?
Passkey is 2FA as it’s something you have (the authorised device with the passkey) and something you are (Face ID or Touch ID) or something you know (device passcode).
Oh yes the website needs to add support for passkeys.Oh so the website needs to suppose Passkey? If they don't, we're stuck with the old login + 2FA method?
This mainly solves the issue of insecure passwords, reused passwords and phishing.I never really understood the advantages of using Passkey over a regular password.
1Password already has Passkey support. You still need someplace to store and sync your Passkeys. You can use iCloud or another password manager.Will this replace the need for 1Password, BitWarden?
Then what’s the point, the whole idea is to eliminate passwords?It should be noted that it also needs a bluetooth connection, in order to prove proximity.
Nope.
Yup.
It's more secure because each passkey can only be used to log in at one site, and since it's using asymmetric crypto, can't be eavesdropped or similar.
Sure.. but most people don't bother with that, and it's also possible to slip up there.
If this is a concern for you, just use a longer device password.
Passkeys do mean you don’t need to use passwords very much. And eventually passwords will go away.Then what’s the point, the whole idea is to eliminate passwords?
Teens tend to tell their best friends their passcodes and IG passwordsWhich should be no one…
Again I repeat; it’s designed to *replace* your Apple ID password. Why is a passcode still necessary?Passkeys do mean you don’t need to use passwords very much. And eventually passwords will go away.
Because you need a way to authenticate access to the device the passkey is stored on.Again I repeat; it’s designed to *replace* your Apple ID password. Why is a passcode still necessary?
The Apple ID password is still there, and it's used outside of the web sign in. Maybe it "replaces" the password in the long term but it's not 100% there yet.Again I repeat; it’s designed to *replace* your Apple ID password. Why is a passcode still necessary?
Solution to that? Require a passcode only when you manually lock the phone. You can do this by squeezing volume up and power buttons togetherThe Apple ID password is still there, and it's used outside of the web sign in. Maybe it "replaces" the password in the long term but it's not 100% there yet.
Also, passcode != password. The passcode will still exist for individual devices and will be required to use the device fully, and we don't really know if biometrics will replace passcodes, it may be a little dangerous to try to rely 100% on biometrics, companies are worrying about law enforcement (they can't make you put in a passcode but can make you biometric authenticate), criminal gangs that might be able to 3D scan your face (just wear a headset that looks like the Vision Pro, with a similar camera array it can build a 3D model of your face, they just have to walk around you, then 3D print the model, then use the face model to get into your phone), so at the very least the phone can lock out biometrics if it thinks it's stolen (it knows it's somewhere it's never been). But someone can also see you put your passcode in or record it with said headset.
This is the best approach, for now at least.Why not just use a complex alpha numeric passcode? With TID and FID It’s not like you have to enter it very often (we use our AID as our device passcode, that way nobody forgets either one.)
That’s no different than the current design if you have your Apple ID saved.Unfortunately on iOS, the backup to Face-ID for the iPhone's Keychain or PassKeys is the iPhone's passcode. So anyone that has access to your phone and knows the passcode, can use the phone's passcode to log-in to iCloud or Apple ID with this feature.