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iOS 17 Rumored to Drop Support for iPhone X, First-Generation iPad Pro, and More

The iPhone X took me from an annual switch of phones to today. Frankly, USB-C and one cable means everything is pulling me towards a new phone.

BUT

The thing is acceptably fast. iOS versions have been kind to the device.

I assume iPhone 15 Pro is my nearest match. I will be sad to go and am still considering a second replacement battery.....
 
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bodonnell202 said:
Exactly, what do you think people that have an iPhone 8, 8 Plus or X will be missing out on with not getting iOS 17? It will still be able to do all the things it was able to do with iOS 16, it just won't receive any new features (which let's face it will probably be dumb anyway, the last feature I got excited about was dark mode). On top of that Apple will continue to provide security updates. People whine about planned obsolescence, but these iPhones will still be able to do all the same things next year as they were able to do this year. I'm really struggling to understand what people are so upset about here.
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Agree with everything you said but you’re missing the importance of app support. Devices not getting the latest and not so greatest iOS will have their essential apps age out earlier. Yes it usually happens a year or two down the road but a device becomes a lot less useful without critical apps working.
 
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mrr said:
Good bye first gen iPad Pro. Obsolete in 8 years.
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I wouldn't consider it to be obsolete just because it doesn't get the latest iPadOS. Other folks here are saying that you can expect it to receive security updates for another year or two, which I think is the most important part of these updates.

Of course, it will suck when the apps start requiring iPadOS 17 to update, but it's probably isn't going to happen any time soon. There are already apps not available to you - for example, DaVinci Resolve is only for M-powered iPads. More general apps like Spotify and Chrome tend to be delivering updates for as many devices as possible. When that stops, then you can consider your iPad obsolete.
 
Abazigal said:
We will see. Apple has been pretty consistent in that regard.
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Agreed. iPadOS 16 supports iPad (2017) with A9/2GB, but iPhone 7 (A10/2GB) doesn't work. The excuse this time from some people was the lock screen "needed" a neural engine. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple pulled the same stunt with iOS 17.
 
MS would hold on to legacy crud on Windows forever, clogging up their OS with obsolete code and hindering innovation. Good to see Apple keep moving forward.
I think i read Windows was likewise moving to compartmentalize the OS to better cut off legacy code.
 
JPack said:
Agreed. iPadOS 16 supports iPad (2017) with A9/2GB, but iPhone 7 (A10/2GB) doesn't work. The excuse this time from some people was the lock screen "needed" a neural engine. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple pulled the same stunt with iOS 17.
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I don't know if that reason was justified or not, but that's what I was referring to in terms of internal consistency. It may not make sense to consumers, but it at least makes sense to Apple (and not just financially).

For example, the iPhone 7 didn't get iOS 16 while the iPad did, but iOS 16 came with a new lockscreen feature while iPadOS 16 didn't. So the two sides are not comparable already.

Same with stage manager. I think the initial plan was to combine it with external monitor support, hence the decision to limit it to M1 iPads. It was less forced obsolescence and more engineering efficiency. While stage manager would eventually come to 2018 iPads, it was more limited, and took resources away from further refining iPadOS.

At this point, the iPhone 8+ / X would have been supported 5 years, which is par the course for iOS devices. It might get a sixth year, it might not, but Apple has continued to live up to its unspoken promise of 5 years of software support at least.
 
Nobody questioning the veracity of the source for this rumor? Don't see any evidence of accuracy for this Twitter user.
 
timber said:
I didn't say it was better, I said (multiple times) its is not that great even without considering that Android doesn't need major updates for simples things like Apple likes to do. I expect more from Apple.
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average user doesn't even keep their phones for six years.

your expectation from apple is in the minority
 
So if iOS 17 drops support for the X, does that mean iOS 18 will drop support for the XS, XS Plus and XR next year? That would push a large number of iPhone users to upgrade to the iPhone 16/16 Plus and 16 Pro/16 Pro Max.
 
practicein2021 said:
I wouldn't consider it to be obsolete just because it doesn't get the latest iPadOS. Other folks here are saying that you can expect it to receive security updates for another year or two, which I think is the most important part of these updates.

Of course, it will suck when the apps start requiring iPadOS 17 to update, but it's probably isn't going to happen any time soon. There are already apps not available to you - for example, DaVinci Resolve is only for M-powered iPads. More general apps like Spotify and Chrome tend to be delivering updates for as many devices as possible. When that stops, then you can consider your iPad obsolete.
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As far as apps go, pretty sure even though you can't update to latest version you can use older versions
 
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dampfnudel said:
So if iOS 17 drops support for the X, does that mean iOS 18 will drop support for the XS, XS Plus and XR next year? That would push a large number of iPhone users to upgrade to the iPhone 16/16 Plus and 16 Pro/16 Pro Max.
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If they actually drop support for X then they'll almost definitely drop the support for XR next year
 
JoeShades said:
As far as apps go, pretty sure even though you can't update to latest version you can use older versions
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Yep. Unless you want to download an app you have uninstalled before/ never downloaded. Then the App Store just says "App is not compatible with this device".

By the way, there is a setting in iPadOS where you can actually prevent apps from being accidentally deleted from your device. In normal circumstances, that sounds like a weird thing to set up, but if you're using an outdated device, you might want to turn it on.

But again, it's probably going to take awhile before apps stop being available. I see that both Chrome and Spotify are requiring iOS 14 - which means that people with iPhones as old as 6S can use them. Plus, how much power does Spotify need, anyway? They will probably try to stay as accessible as possible.
 
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