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More like Replace "ChatGPT" with "Siri" and it's 2012 all over again.

I'm pretty confused at how much some people keep trying to push AI. I maybe look forward to the day it gets up to working ~10% of the time instead of today's ~1% of the time. It's just astonishingly bad for how much people keep trying to hype it up.

Once again, we have an over-generalization of what AI is. You're referring to "Generative AI" features, which are still in their infancy, but still work amazing well! AI is an umbrella term across a wide swath of machine-learning technologies that are already deeply integrated into everyday platforms, likely even your car to a certain extent.

In general:
  • Machine Learning is a subset of AI, and often comes in a pre-trained format. For example, if your car has lane-guidance, it's using a pre-trained model to do that guidance. It's not a "learning" model. That's still AI, but just a limited subset of it.
  • Generative AI is the new kid on the block, and what is getting all of the hype. If you view it as a bad apple, just be aware that it's not ruining the whole barrel.
 
Apple Mail summaries sounded like a great idea, and I really wanted to like them, but the summaries were often so ridiculous, even misleading, that I've already turned them off. And Image Playground is pretty much a train wreck. It's looking like the best parts of "Apple AI" are the parts that Apple has the least to do with!
 
Apple Mail summaries sounded like a great idea, and I really wanted to like them, but the summaries were often so ridiculous, even misleading, that I've already turned them off. And Image Playground is pretty much a train wreck. It's looking like the best parts of "Apple AI" are the parts that Apple has the least to do with!
Correct. It’s total trash. Apple is going to die a slow long death. Just like IBM, Microsoft, Google, etc. 50,000 engineers and they can’t get simple stuff to work right any more. RIP JOBS
 
>but you may eventually hit OpenAI's daily limits for advanced capabilities, which use the latest GPT-4o model. After reaching these limits, the system switches to basic mode until 24 hours have passed. While it has not been confirmed, basic mode likely uses OpenAI's GPT-4o mini model, which handles most common requests more quickly, but the responses you get may be less detailed.

That is the kind of arbitrary inconsistency that really decays user experience for many people.

For those who understand the underlying models, limitations, and their commercial model, fine. But for most, it’s just weird.
 
Is it just me, or do the ChatGPT replies disappear almost immediately for anyone else? I’ve been testing this since the first dev beta and it hasn’t been fixed yet (for me, at least).
My reply disappeared quickly, but I think I’ve only managed to use it once but yes it did and it was really annoying and once it was gone, it seemed like it was gone forever, but maybe I can check my history somewhere. Good point.
 
Apple Mail summaries sounded like a great idea, and I really wanted to like them, but the summaries were often so ridiculous, even misleading, that I've already turned them off. And Image Playground is pretty much a train wreck. It's looking like the best parts of "Apple AI" are the parts that Apple has the least to do with!
Gemini is MUCH better at summarizing e-mails.
 
Even though I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max it’s pretty lame that Apple locks out older models even though it’s sending the data to OpenAI and not processing it on your phone. I’m sure they have some excuse, but in reality it’s all about selling you a phone you really don’t need, and I fell for it.
🤔 but, this might be my last iPhone… Apple missed to ball and this patching AI and incremental phone upgrades with BS marketing is starting to get to me.
 
Is Apple paying OpenAI for every request on behalf of users? There's gotta be something in it financially.
Reportedly no money is flowing. Presumably OpenAI is interested in the conversation data and/or is hoping for subscriptions from users who are hitting the limit and/or wants to prevent the competition to be in that place.
 
I wasted a bit of time trying to find this on my iPhone 13 Pro Max before realising it wasn't getting it.
Which is really annoying, I'm an OpenAI subscriber and I want to be able to use it integrated in my phone.
So why deny it to me when it's not using the local silicon for AI but a 3rd party?
Set it up on my new Mac Mini M4 no problem but yet to use it so I'm now thinking that it's irrelevant anyway.
I don't want to be rude, but it was said a million times in all media and by apple that this was m1 and up and iPhone 15 pro and up. It's in fact the reason the stock jumped when apple intelligence was announced since they were expecting a sales boost due to the incentive to upgrade for people with older phones. In apple's defence, I did play with some image touch ups apps on my previous computer which was an m1 and it was so slow that it was unusable and the iPhone 13's A15 is about 40% slower than the m1.
 
Is it wrong to assume that, the fact that they provide an option to ask beforehand means there is reason we would not want to proceed related to privacy? Or is it simply to make us feel like we have some control over some random bits of data.
 
Still a lot to improve. But the ChatGPT integration is nice. In my experience better to force use ChatGPT by saying ChatGPT while using Siri. Sending a screenshot to summarize content on screen is nice.
 
I don't want to be rude, but it was said a million times in all media and by apple that this was m1 and up and iPhone 15 pro and up. It's in fact the reason the stock jumped when apple intelligence was announced since they were expecting a sales boost due to the incentive to upgrade for people with older phones. In apple's defence, I did play with some image touch ups apps on my previous computer which was an m1 and it was so slow that it was unusable and the iPhone 13's A15 is about 40% slower than the m1.
"Image touch ups" aint done by ChatGPT.
Apple has been happy to include Google as the default search browser for years now in exchange for billions of $s.
Now it's got OpenAI's ChatGPT offering something a bit more high level, and not on the device, but from OpenAI servers.
I did say "...when it's not using the local silicon for AI but a 3rd party?..." but you chose to ignore that part of what I said in an attempt to look informed and clever and belittle my point.
Yeah I think you were just being rude.
 
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Snooze. Honestly? I picked up a dirt cheap Pixel 9 Pro over Black Friday and have been loving the feel and scroll of the phone! Not to mention the more seamless and accurate Gemini.
 
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I prefer using the ChatGPT app directly. The Apple integration is not saving me that much time at the end. This is not Apple’s core competency, I feel they are late in the game. I’m glad that the base model are now 16GB tho
 
I tried these features a lot. Using chat gpt app directly when needed makes more sense to me.

Can’t see any value in these glued on, rushed AI features apple is trying to sell.
 
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so you really missed all the posts since WWDC 2024 telling everyone that you need an iPhone 15 or 16?
Now I wasted time typing this ...
Yeah, but why?:) chatgpt stuff aint working locally, just another apple push to buy new phone
 
I’ve had this turned on since it was an option in beta, but I haven’t used it once yet, but I think that’s because I hardly ever use Siri. Why do I have to talk to my computer? It was dumb and dorky when I first tried speech recognition in the 90s, and is still dumb now. Type to Siri has been marginally useful, but I’ve never asked anything that has prompted ChatGPT.
 
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Even though I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max it’s pretty lame that Apple locks out older models even though it’s sending the data to OpenAI and not processing it on your phone. I’m sure they have some excuse, but in reality it’s all about selling you a phone you really don’t need, and I fell for it.
🤔 but, this might be my last iPhone… Apple missed to ball and this patching AI and incremental phone upgrades with BS marketing is starting to get to me.
On the same boat.

I will get the 17 and give the 16 to my wife as hers is getting older.
But then I fall back to the 3 years upgrade cycle.

Feels like Apple lost a bit of their Rebel approach and became more “safe” or generic.
But this is probably just me.
 
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