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No..you cannot.

They’re literally allowing police in to stop protests.

You just made that up, project 2025 is now. And sadly will continue.

They may be allowing police, but not all colleges call the police. It's their discretion. My employer has it's own college police force, as most do.

If you want to call me liar, just do it. I literally saw a protest, on campus, over the weekend; it started, it ended, it was peaceful.
 
As I understand, this is reviewed by a real person at apple before being transferred to authorities.

How does that make anything better? So more people can now see my kids naked pics, or literally anything else someone decided to report and add it to their call database before bringing in the cops. Some adult somewhere is going to have to spend their day looking at all the explicit material kids send to each other-- then we're going to expect Apple to decide if the parents and police should be involved?

None of this reduces the embarrassment of the situation for the kids, and I'm not sure Apple is who I want making judgement calls on this. Leaving aside whether it's fair to put that responsibility on Apple.
 
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How does that make anything better? So more people can now see my kids naked pics, or literally anything else someone decided to report and add it to their call database before bringing in the cops. Some adult somewhere is going to have to spend their day looking at all the explicit material kids send to each other-- then we're going to expect Apple to decide if the parents and police should be involved?

None of this reduces the embarrassment of the situation for the kids, and I'm not sure Apple is who I want making judgement calls on this. Leaving aside whether it's fair to put that responsibility on Apple.

Alright, so a kid sent a junk pic, they don't feel comfortable going to their guardians for whatever reason but are uncomfortable with it. What should they do? Laugh it off, feel bad, keep it hidden, suck it up?
 
Alright, so a kid sent a junk pic, they don't feel comfortable going to their guardians for whatever reason but are uncomfortable with it. What should they do? Laugh it off, feel bad, keep it hidden, suck it up?

I understand the problem you're posing. You're not explaining how getting Apple involved makes any of it better. As far as I can tell it makes everything much, much worse in that situation.

They don't want to go to a guardian, and don't want to go to the police, so they get an American multi-national, the police and their guardian involved? Seems like everything they didn't want (their guardian, the police) and more.

Apple's legally mandated response here isn't to open an anonymous counseling line-- it's to involve the authorities.
 
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I understand the problem you're posing. You're not explaining how getting Apple involved makes any of it better. As far as I can tell it makes everything much, much worse in that situation.

They don't want to go to a guardian, and don't want to go to the police, so they get an American multi-national, the police and their guardian involved? Seems like everything they didn't want (their guardian, the police) and more.

Apple's legally mandated response here isn't to open an anonymous counseling line-- it's to involve the authorities.
Because reporting it to Apple is impersonal. Child feels they’ve been victimized? Push button. Done. That’s all there is to it.

While yes, you may eventually have to speak with parents or police, it’s not the first step. No fear of ridicule, hounding, or uncertainty of support to discourage you from saying anything. The first step is the hardest step. And if you are later asked to speak to the police, you know they are actually working on your case rather than you trying to make an initial report and hope to be taken seriously.

Making it easier for victims to seek help is a good thing.
 
Because reporting it to Apple is impersonal. Child feels they’ve been victimized? Push button. Done. That’s all there is to it.

Thanks. That's a clear statement of a potential benefit, and I can see it. I can see there being less fear pushing a button to a far away company and not having to look mom or dad in the eye.

I still think that in the vast majority of cases, that button should notify the parents associated with the account and not dump it into MegaCorp's lap on the other side of the planet.

While yes, you may eventually have to speak with parents or police, it’s not the first step. No fear of ridicule, hounding, or uncertainty of support to discourage you from saying anything. The first step is the hardest step. And if you are later asked to speak to the police, you know they are actually working on your case rather than you trying to make an initial report and hope to be taken seriously.

If this is the thinking, I'm back to being hesitant. This sounds like a bit of bait and switch trickery. We're trying to trick vulnerable kids into pushing a button we make seem distant and impersonal, and then some time later they have cops showing up at both the victim's and perpetrator's homes with printed records of offending communications and parents feeling behind events and asking "why didn't you come to us about this first?"

Making it easier for victims to seek help is a good thing.

Sure, ceteris paribus. But it's really hard to isolate that as the only impact.

There are times when it should be safety above all else and we can apologize later, sure. Step away for the ledge and I promise you a pony. Maybe after time they'll be glad for the intervention and excuse the lack of pony. I think there's a real risk though that those rare situations are going to get lost in the wash of more general potential harm.

Even in the situation you're describing, where a child is shy to speak to someone close, imagine their mortification when not talking to a parent privately on their own terms suddenly means so many more people are involved and aware and your parents are partly focused on defending themselves as parents rather than putting everything into helping the child with their issue.

And again, I think there are a lot of potential problems outside of that one situation. If you want to make it easier, you'll have less "are you sure" dialogs-- I've seen people pull fire alarms wondering what would happen and then suddenly realize their mistake. If there's no take backs on this, then impulsive behavior can trigger major consequences.

I dunno, I see your point on making it less personal, but I'm not sure the net benefit here is good-- and it definitely substitutes Apple for parents even if you think there's good reason to.


Having said it earlier, I'm starting to think it's a better solution: have the button anonymously call an in-country counseling line.
 
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Nobody is a parent anymore. Just adults with pet children. Maybe stop giving your kids access to the internet before they're old enough?! Actually PARENT your children. The child should be telling their parents so they can go to the police. Why are we deferring that responsibility to a Tech Corporation!?
You really should have started the comment with "Back in my day" and a picture of Abe Simpson.

This sounds like a way of complaining, dismissing a problem and blaming people instead of looking for a solution while conveniently feeling superior to these "bad parents", as if parenting was perfect in the past and you know all about it. I'd like to remind you that some parents thought D&D was satanism back in the 80s.

"Why aren't parents just better at parenting?" isn't a solution.
The tech is relatively new, these are the first generations of parents to deal with it and, well, parents are humans, not some sort of authority on parenting and technology. On average they're... average. Some of them are bad and we still must do all we can to protect their children. Bottom-down approaches can work, not sure why you don't like them since you didn't mention any reason. You act as if bad parenting was something new that we could solve. It's not.
Also, many bad parents have reasons to be unable to control aspects of their children's lives. Being a good parents has requirements (time, money, support, education, intelligence) that many parents just happen to lack.

And there's another side to this: when most kids have phones and their social lives happen through the internet, you want to be really careful cutting your child out of it. Plus... "until they're ready" is very vague. It's not like at some point you're released a certificate that proves your child is 100% immune from the dangers of the internet, even if you're a good parents, you still have to guess and hope that the many factors that are completely out of your control are good, just like when you let them alone on the street.

Thought these things were obvious to good-parenting experts.
 
Why would you allow your child to be communicating with someone they don’t know, block all contacts except the ones that the parents specify and lock down the phone.
You obviously are not a parent…
I am so glad my kids are adults now, and I feel bad for parents these days. It’s getting harder and harder for good parents to do stuff, let alone crappy parents.
If I kid wants to talk to someone, those little brats will find a way.
 
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You can’t shelter kids forever.
Sure I can. Mine remain untainted by our collapse of civilization & natural world here, and they experience none of this species' barbaric abuse, neglect & misery. They are perfect in their blissful, comfy state of non-existence, and until I can find a very good reason for screwing that up and subjecting them to a life of pointless labor, nonexistence is where they'll remain.

The reason this is preferable to an automatic on-board ai instantly flagging the FBI when it detects a nude coming in is bc 999 times out of 1000 that your kid is sent a nude, it's from another kid their age, whether its of that very kid or an adult porn pic they got online. Some of you clearly are not aware how casually kids share nudes of themselves (and share w/ their friends). If every time they did, their parents got hauled in for distributing/possessing cp, practically everyone with a child would be getting courtesy shuttle service in the partyvan. If you're going to subject your kids early brain development to the effects of smartphones & social media, then you want your little spawn to be aware enough and able to report unwanted sexual or violent content.

Oh violence isn't a problem huh USA, just nudity? You don't say.
 
Nobody is a parent anymore. Just adults with pet children. Maybe stop giving your kids access to the internet before they're old enough?! Actually PARENT your children. The child should be telling their parents so they can go to the police. Why are we deferring that responsibility to a Tech Corporation!?
And what if the sick #$&* is the parent?

People shouldn’t use the tool to parent, but use it as an additional tool to help.
 
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The reports should go to their parents. It’s weird that Apple is stepping in the middle here
 
That's predicated on Tim (a fellow homosexual) cooperating with a government mandate of that nature. Not to underplay the clear and present issues with a particular candidate, though.
Is Tim going to live forever? Do we have to make sure his successor will also be gay?
 
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