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iOS 9 was compatible with the iPhone 4S — and it ruined it. Slow as hell.

iPhone 12 is compatible with iPhone 6 series — and it totally ruined it. Slower than hell.

Want to install iOS 18 on an XS? Apple sure wants you to because….. it will ruin that phone and you’ll need to buy a newer one. Ha!
 
7 years has been done before as Apple gave the 6s from late 2015 when it was released to late 2022 when ios 16 came out so the XR/XS getting ios 18 doesn't seem too far of a stretch.
 
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iOS 9 was compatible with the iPhone 4S — and it ruined it. Slow as hell.

iPhone 12 is compatible with iPhone 6 series — and it totally ruined it. Slower than hell.

Want to install iOS 18 on an XS? Apple sure wants you to because….. it will ruin that phone and you’ll need to buy a newer one. Ha!
iOS 8 was already slow on iPhone 4S, which isn’t a surprise given its 512 MB RAM.

iPhone 6 bogged down early in its lifetime too, because of its 1 GB RAM.

In contrast, XR is pretty fast on iOS 17 with its 3 GB RAM.
 
Not too surprising, I kind of expected Apple supporting all the A12+ devices given that over the last 2 years Apple has dropped 3 generations of iPhone. (6s-7 at iOS 15, 8-X at iOS 16) Besides the pressure of Google/Samsung supporting their newest phones for 7 years.
 
iOS 9 was compatible with the iPhone 4S — and it ruined it. Slow as hell.

iPhone 12 is compatible with iPhone 6 series — and it totally ruined it. Slower than hell.

Want to install iOS 18 on an XS? Apple sure wants you to because….. it will ruin that phone and you’ll need to buy a newer one. Ha!

iOS 17 runs perfectly fine on my XS. I have never wanted/needed my device to be faster.

I get about 3-4 hours screen-on time per charge, which I think is decent for a heavily degraded battery with thousands of cycles on it. Doubt I’d be getting better battery life with an older iOS.

The only problem I have is iOS aggressively closing backgrounded apps due to the lack of RAM and no swap (like macOS). Even if you only have one app open, iOS will often kill it within seconds of backgrounding it. But the amount of RAM was already a concern in 2018, so it’s not really surprising that it only took a few years for this to become a significant problem for the device. Perhaps iOS 17 is using more RAM, but so are all the apps on my phone.
 
iOS 17 runs perfectly fine on my XS. I have never wanted/needed my device to be faster.

I get about 3-4 hours screen-on time per charge, which I think is decent for a heavily degraded battery with thousands of cycles on it. Doubt I’d be getting better battery life with an older iOS.

The only problem I have is iOS aggressively closing backgrounded apps due to the lack of RAM and no swap (like macOS). Even if you only have one app open, iOS will often kill it within seconds of backgrounding it. But the amount of RAM was already a concern in 2018, so it’s not really surprising that it only took a few years for this to become a significant problem for the device. Perhaps iOS 17 is using more RAM, but so are all the apps on my phone.
Curious, do you have Background App Refresh enabled?
 
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iPhone 15 Pro Max is in the list phew!

Now for real - iPhone XR from 2018 - 6 years of support, that's nice. Keep it up Apple.

vs.

If this rumor is accurate, iOS 18 would be compatible with the same iPhone models as iOS 17:

Hope you are right about the XR for those who own it. OTOH, let's see how well it runs on that 6-year-old model!

It's also a rumor, so it's probably too soon for us to declare victory and extol Apple's support longevity! 😁
 
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Has Apple made any official pledge of longer support?

I prefer Apple's track record instead of a mere pledge, but I like that Google and Samsung finally caught up in words the reality of Apple's long support and officially state 7 years of not just security updates but even real version support.

Would be nice for Apple to state the same as they already pretty much do that. And then even over-deliver, just like they often do ❤️

Devices having longer, more secure lifespan is great for everyone.

  • Handing down your phone with ease of mind
  • or selling your phone with larger (real) value because of longer support
  • Apps that "everyone" uses like banks, browsers, social media, etc. having it easier to support same OS version even for much older devices
Great stuff for users (that update), for app developers (mostly), ...for planet even. What's not to like?
Android devices getting +6 years of support will not fix issues like delayed updates, carrier approval and so on. The good part of Apple is that you can get the next iOS version at day 1, Android on the other hand may take several months to deliver the next Android version.

How long will it take for an S24 Ultra to get Android 21?
 
Apple's not bad with the orphaning of products. They certainly beat the fraud that is Android, where users wait months, years, or forever for every telco to dribble out a hacked, proprietary version of Android for every device... one at a time.

More Google incompetence.
 
My spouse still has an 11 and I'm surprised to see it on the list. It really has gotten long in the tooth.

I suppose if you use it every day and have nothing to compare it to, you don't see it. But I picked the 11 up the other day after using my 15PM and it was a world of difference.
I have a really old iphone too, but it's because I'm bored with smart phones and don't care anymore. If it can handle iMessage, FaceTime, make phone calls and safari searches when necessary, I'm good.
 
The iPhone Xʀ on iOS 12 is one of the best performing iPhones ever, with an outstanding 16-hour SOT with light use. Not close to the 13 Pro Max on iOS 15, but a two-day phone for many users. It’s sad to see its state on iOS 17. Further degradation, here we go!

Mine will obviously remain on iOS 12.
 
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The iPhone Xʀ on iOS 12 is one of the best performing iPhones ever, with an outstanding 16-hour SOT with light use. Not close to the 13 Pro Max on iOS 15, but a two-day phone for many users. It’s sad to see its state on iOS 17. Further degradation, here we go!

Mine will obviously remain on iOS 12.
So, basically, your iPhone XS doesn’t even have dark mode, right?

Well, if battery life is the most important aspect for you, and you’re happy with it even at the expense of missing on all the features that iOS 13, 14, 15 and 16 brought to the device, then good for you!

For me, and I think for many, it isn’t worth it. So I usually keep my devices on the previos major release.
 
I have an XR, and I’m perfectly happy with an update that does not include the first iteration of Apple’s AI

Not too surprising, I kind of expected Apple supporting all the A12+ devices given that over the last 2 years Apple has dropped 3 generations of iPhone. (6s-7 at iOS 15, 8-X at iOS 16) Besides the pressure of Google/Samsung supporting their newest phones for 7 years.
Apples device support has no pressure from them , they have been supporting older hardware for much longer then they have
 
I could keep my iPhone 12 for one more year with iOS 18.0 but I do want something much more modern--hence I am getting an iPhone 16 Plus 512 GB when that becomes available in late September 2024.
You could, and probably should, hold off an extra year.
AI features will most likely be available only to A14 devices and higher, because this was when the SoC’s Neural Engine went from 8 to 16 cores.
You could even make a case for the A15, which still offers plenty of headroom.
 
Add me to the list of--potentially--happy XR owners!

Given all the rumors about 18's advanced AI, I figured my XR was toast.

Edit: I'm sure svish, above, is right. But at least the XR crew might get *some* of 18!
 
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So, basically, your iPhone XS doesn’t even have dark mode, right?

Well, if battery life is the most important aspect for you, and you’re happy with it even at the expense of missing on all the features that iOS 13, 14, 15 and 16 brought to the device, then good for you!

For me, and I think for many, it isn’t worth it. So I usually keep my devices on the previos major release.
For me there’s no valid cause to obliterate a device. Keeping it on the previous major release is updating it anyway, and in my honest opinion there’s barely any difference. I wish I could do something else. Apple’s practices make that impossible.
 
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