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That’s what is pushing people forward. Bold steps. Or if they have not enough courage then just don’t call it biggest UI overhaul in years. It is just a small tweak of already flat design. They basically do a flat design with a more prominent edges.

But that would be not the worst part. The worst part is that even if they still wont bring us anything looking like a new era, they still may screw UX by adding more clicks and taps just to look different. Judging by the new camera UI, which looks great until you realize that clean look is achieved by drop down menu of sort, so one more click when taking adjusting or changing camera features, terrible design.
They don't care about pushing the industry. They don't care about being courageous. They care about making money.

That said, we have a random leak that doesn't seem to include much at all. Is Apple even claiming this to be a big overhaul? Or is that also from leakers? Either way, let's wait and see what actually comes. I can't imagine that claim being made for round, transparent icons.
 
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For the first time ever since 2008, I am starting to seriously look into other options than just an iPhone. It's stagnated and frankly, becoming not worth the cost. I don't like change for the sake of change, but when I hear from my friends on Android what features and options they have, I am starting to think maybe I am missing out on stuff. In my understanding, Android today is very different to what it was about 10 years ago, and I am starting to wonder how it is because Apple is seriously beating on a dead horse these days without bringing anything new to the table when it comes to iPhone.

Do the change you won't be disappointed. Personally, I'd stick with Samsung flagships. OneUi is by far the most matured and stable Android user interface. The days of calling Pixel true Android are over. In fact, Google is constantly taking OneUI features to add to Android. Quickshare is the latest feature taken from OneUI. Customization on Samsung flagships is on a while dissent level. S26 Ultra would be the one to get when it comes out next year. That's the year of big changes in design and in battery.
 
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Do the change you won't be disappointed. Personally, I'd stick with Samsung flagships. OneUi is by far the most matured and stable Android user interface. The days of calling Pixel true Android are over. In fact, Google is constantly taking OneUI features to add to Android. Quickshare is the latest feature taken from OneUI. Customization on Samsung flagships is on a while dissent level. S26 Ultra would be the one to get when it comes out next year. That's the year of big changes in design and in battery.
I think I'm going to have a look. Thank you for the tips.
 
Sometimes you just gotta mix things up to move stuff forward as iterative change after iterative change only compounds fundamental design choices made a long time ago for different hardware with different capabilities.

Sure when there's different hardware or different capabilities. This was true for touch phones vs. flip phones. And iPads vs. MacBooks... For Apple Vision. But for the iPhone/iPad we we're still essentially tapping and swiping on glass.

Not sure why "fundamental design choices" can be critiqued when they're based decades of research and understanding and refinement about human interfacing with screens, and human nature, etc. And then iterative changes after iterative changes were..."good" made "better" usually, no?

"Sometimes you gotta mix things up" goes wrong when a radical change is introduced not in response to a need but clearly more for flash/pizzazz/excitement. iOS7 cough cough. Hoping 19 does not repeat the worst aspects of iOS7 which reduced intuitiveness by 90% in some cases all for the sake of Jony's personal grudge against woodgrain and felt and brushed chrome textures on the screen.
 
Sure when there's different hardware or different capabilities. This was true for touch phones vs. flip phones. And iPads vs. MacBooks... For Apple Vision. But for the iPhone/iPad we we're still essentially tapping and swiping on glass.

Not sure why "fundamental design choices" can be critiqued when they're based decades of research and understanding and refinement about human interfacing with screens, and human nature, etc. And then iterative changes after iterative changes were..."good" made "better" usually, no?

"Sometimes you gotta mix things up" goes wrong when a radical change is introduced not in response to a need but clearly more for flash/pizzazz/excitement. iOS7 cough cough. Hoping 19 does not repeat the worst aspects of iOS7 which reduced intuitiveness by 90% in some cases all for the sake of Jony's personal grudge against woodgrain and felt and brushed chrome textures on the screen.
We’re living with iOS 7 today and imo it’s a good thing. The pendulum of life swings back and forth and everything old is new again, etc. Apple is to be commended for cutting it clean with iOS 7.
 
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We’re living with iOS 7 today and imo it’s a good thing. The pendulum of life swings back and forth and everything old is new again, etc. Apple is to be commended for cutting it clean with iOS 7.
Ha, but clearly the worst of iOS7 has been backed away from and sheepishly fixed, with much of the flat design aspects back-tracked towards intuitive interface design.

Commended bleh, I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit lol.
 
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Who would call this a major design update?
As long as they get Siri and AI working, no one‘s gonna give a **** about the shape of the icons.
You think most care more about al than different look on the UI? Dunno that’s true at all. Think most people realise al is very early to be useful on smartphones
 
You think most care more about al than different look on the UI? Dunno that’s true at all. Think most people realise al is very early to be useful on smartphones
Better SIRI / AI might get people to buy a new phone instead of holding onto their old one. *IF* it works as promised.
Slightly different shape of icons though? Not so much.
 
So, Windows Phone?
Windows Phone had a great interface in my opinion, very efficient and different to any other in the market. They departed from the classical desktop metaphor and it made perfect sense for a small device!
 
Whatever iOS 19 ends up looking like they need to rework or at least speed up the transitional animations that are single handedly making iOS feel like it’s less snappy than Android despite actually running better on most hardware
 
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Windows Phone had a great interface in my opinion, very efficient and different to any other in the market. They departed from the classical desktop metaphor and it made perfect sense for a small device!
I never actually used it, but it's sad it didn't make it. It would be great for the market to have a third (or fourth) mobile OS. I did have a palm pre device or two and thought webOS was awesome for the time.
 
Glassy vibe, hm... I'm just gonna drop this here.... What Would Jony Ive Do?

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Sure when there's different hardware or different capabilities. This was true for touch phones vs. flip phones. And iPads vs. MacBooks... For Apple Vision. But for the iPhone/iPad we we're still essentially tapping and swiping on glass.

By the same logic it shouldn't have been necessary to change from MacOS 9 to OS X because we were still 'essentially typing on keyboards and moving around the mouse'.

Not sure why "fundamental design choices" can be critiqued when they're based decades of research and understanding and refinement about human interfacing with screens, and human nature, etc.

I'm really not convinced that iOS, as it is, necessarily is the best possible implementation of of how a phone user interface can look and work. In some ways my 6.1" iPhone still follows the same principles as my 3.5" iPhone, as do the 10" iPads.

Look I'm not saying it's all bad and necessarily needs a complete overhaul, but at the same time I just don't believe iOS is a masterpiece just because I've gotten used to it.

And then iterative changes after iterative changes were..."good" made "better" usually, no?

That saying by Henry Ford about faster horses comes to mind. Yes, iterative change can be good, but sometimes it can also constrain what you can achieve.

I believe iPadOS is a prime example here, which I believe really needs a fundamental overhaul to make it anything other than a media consumption device.

Anyway, as I said from the outset, I'm not sure how that change could look like or whether Apple actually has good ideas to improve the iOS. I'm sure it works great for a lot of people, but I'm equally convinced that this is as much due to people having built their expectations and workflows around the system as it is, as it is to Apple refining the user interface.
 
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