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how is it broken ?
eSIM isn’t broken, it’s clunky. When they work, they’re amazing.They have to be transferred a very specific way, it’s not as simple as downloading a file and sending/uploading it to your new phone. And they’re still crippled by the carrier’s backend. A failed transfer means one or more phone calls to fix the problem.
 
Converting to eSim in Vodafone was easy, is it easy to transfer it to new iPhone though?

Or do I have to contact Vodafone if I buy new phone?
 
But not between iPhone and iPad?

(which was relatively easy when the iPad supported a physical SIM).
 
But not between iPhone and iPad?

(which was relatively easy when the iPad supported a physical SIM).

With physical SIMs the only person whom you need permission from to switch devices is ... you.

With eSIM you need Apple, Google, your provider and the phone manufacturer in case of Android to agree *and* to cooperate competently.

Yet there are people who praise the eSIM for some reason...
 
This is cool that Apple finally catches up Android (rather Google) on this fantastic feature. In my country some providers are stupid by offering eSIM as some sort of premium option only for the Postpaid customers! But the major carrier is offering it in all sort of mobiles. The problem is that Android OEMs have to quickly setup eSIM in all their mid range mobiles.
 
........they use different plans and are provisioned differently....... why would they add that? And why would anyone want that hassle?
The US isn’t the only country that exists. Free Mobile (in France) doesn’t have iPad specific plans. Why would they when their plans start at €2/month ?
 
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why would you put an overseas sim in your phone while traveling abroad
Exactly because carrying a second phone with you is a lot of hassle to deal with plus you’d have to “pre-configure” it in a way that suites you best while you are abroad. Put an overseas sim inside, and you are done while traveling overseas. You are happy to carry a second phone. I am not, so does lots of other people.
eSim is the best thing for the introverted. No more phone calls to activate a new phone!
If only the transfer “works”. I once had to hotspot each other to get my eSIM activated while I was abroad, almost forcing me to call Telstra to resolve the issue.
Did you know there's such a thing as a phone with dual physical SIM trays? It's what Apple sells in (i think) China to this day.
Yes and iirc Hong Kong version of the iPhone also has the same dual SIM card tray. The fascinating part is that dual SIM card tray is ONLY the size of a NORMAL single SIM card tray. If you put two SIMs, Both SIMs stack on top of each other to work. It was an incredibly ingenious design. If only rest of the world could have it plus eSIM.
That's what this aims to fix.
Aim to fix what? You need an internet connection to activate eSIM you know? Whereas physical sim “just works” by plugging it in the SIM card tray. No hassle.
 
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eSIM is one of those modern solutions that fixes one problem but introduces many other problems that will either require a bunch of software to fix or will never be fixed
Just like every other thing in the world, they come with tradeoffs. ESIM isn’t just plainly superior over physical sim either.
 
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eSIM is one of the stupidest things Apple has ever done.

Physical SIM cards just work. eSIM is fundamentally broken.
I bought an eSIM in Estonia and it worked well. Everything worked. By the time I arrived to Latvia it said: "No Signal" and it stopped working completely. I just removed it. Never happened with physical SIM card.
 
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In the Netherlands I just activate the eSIM on my new phone through my carrier app. The old one gets deactivated and I’m done. Do things work differently elsewhere that this functionality is required?
 
It's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Never had to run to a carrier store to replace a bad eSIM. Easy to add. I've got a Verizon work iPhone that I added my personal Xfinity line to. One phone, two active lines from two different carriers. All done from the privacy of my own home.
It’s worked flawlessly for me. Never opened the sim tray on my last two phones including my current.
 
In the Netherlands I just activate the eSIM on my new phone through my carrier app. The old one gets deactivated and I’m done. Do things work differently elsewhere that this functionality is required?
Let's start with "carrier app". That's a HUGE issue compared to physical SIM where you just move it from one phone to another.
 
Let's start with "carrier app". That's a HUGE issue compared to physical SIM where you just move it from one phone to another.
Except it’s not an issue whatsoever in my case. The app of my carrier works really well and installing an eSIM is a breeze. And to clarify: my question wasn’t about the difference between installing an eSIM versus a physical one. My question was about the transfer functionality that’s now being offered between iOS and Android for eSIMs versus installing it through a carrier app when migrating to another phone.
 
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What about having a "spare" eSIM? I ran into an issue with Verizon, the eSIM has corrupt (I forget) -- the Verizon store had to call somewhat at Verizon to release it. Having a spare might have helped -- QR CODE. I'm just complaining, but I feel like Apple didn't think some of this through.
 
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The US isn’t the only country that exists. Free Mobile (in France) doesn’t have iPad specific plans. Why would they when their plans start at €2/month ?

Ok. And why swap a SIM when the plan costs 2 euro? The same is true in the US, where plans start at $5.
 
Looking forward to try this out on my Pixel 8 Pro and iPhone 16 towards the end of the year when both 16 QPR1 and iOS 26 are here.

Will be quite useful when I don’t want to carry two phones haha. Seamless sim swap would be cool
 
I'm fully expecting my next iPhone upgrade to have to be smuggled in from Canada.
You'll lose mmWave bands (isn't a big deal unless you have Verizon), but you gain a physical SIM tray (obviously) and some Japan-exclusive bands (in case you plan to travel there)
 
Yes and iirc Hong Kong version of the iPhone also has the same dual SIM card tray. The fascinating part is that dual SIM card tray is ONLY the size of a NORMAL single SIM card tray. If you put two SIMs, Both SIMs stack on top of each other to work. It was an incredibly ingenious design. If only rest of the world could have it plus eSIM.

Interesting. I probably should buy an iPhone the next time I visit Hong Kong. Will all other iPhone features work? (i.e. no disabled iMessage, or whatnot)
 
You'll lose mmWave bands (isn't a big deal unless you have Verizon), but you gain a physical SIM tray (obviously) and some Japan-exclusive bands (in case you plan to travel there)
Yeah, mmWave isn't a big deal for me. I don't even notice a speed difference when it's active now. I doubt I'll make it to Japan all that soon, but wish I could.
 
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Interesting. I probably should buy an iPhone the next time I visit Hong Kong. Will all other iPhone features work? (i.e. no disabled iMessage, or whatnot)
Apple loads region specific iOS to regional devices. That means a China iPhone can’t use FaceTime audio but can control which app can access data on a per app level, including wifi. Hong Kong iPhone restrictions will also apply, though I can’t remember what they are off the top of my head.
 
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With physical SIMs the only person whom you need permission from to switch devices is ... you.

With eSIM you need Apple, Google, your provider and the phone manufacturer in case of Android to agree *and* to cooperate competently.

Yet there are people who praise the eSIM for some reason...
because I have one nano-sim slot in my phone, and yet have multiple lines ;) It is also great if I am abroad and my data is limited, just quickly add nother e-sim, from a local provider and boom cheap data. e-Sim is great.
 
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