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Yet Grok manages to have up to the minute information on current affairs.

I was asking it other day why AMD stocks dropped 6% after the earnings announcement, and it had current and up to date information.

What good is an AI that has a time-based lapse on knowledge?
Yes this is an advantage of Grok, it has realtime access to the X API.

Although there are a ton of issues with model alignment I think it has a strong future.


Particularly since xAI is targeting “adult” use and given Elon’s funding and the API / scale advantage I think they will be a strong competitor in the years to come. Adult content always pushes technology forward in adoption, from vhs to blu ray to internet service, for better or worse.
 
Yes this is an advantage of Grok, it has realtime access to the X API.

Although there are a ton of issues with model alignment I think it has a strong future.
Except X just lost its CEO, has not become the super app for crypto/payments/banking/ecommerce that Musk promised, gets advertising contracts through coercion, and got rid of moderation and became "anti-woke" (read "far right"), losing a lot of users. It does not look good for X as a platform. If xAI has good search results for current news, how long will that last if X continues the way it has been going? How long before those news results start to sound just as biased as Fox News or just become "alternative facts"?
 
Status of scraping copyrighted material?
Status of all Lawsuits about scraped material?
When do copyrighted material world views change?
LLMs and scraping copyrighted Material.
Liabilities of LLMs scraped materials.
So many unknowns.
 
I am curious why not any LLM? I would prefer Grok to be in my iphone vs ChatGPT. Or swap with Gemini 2.5 pro or Claude.

You will have to wait for the industry to standardize APIs and feature sets before you get to set your default LLM. You might also have to wait for competition to eliminate enough companies so that governments have a pretext to step in and demand Apple to allow changing the default. Honestly, it is too early because these integrations are going to be lame for a year or two. Plus, you cannot trust Apple to do anything right with Siri given its history. For now, you can get apps or use the web to get any chatbot integration on your iPhone.
 
The lack of conversation memory eliminates half the reason I stick to ChatGPT. As they're far behind in deploying an actual chatbot themselves, can't they find a privacy respecting way to do that, differential privacy and all?
 
Except X just lost its CEO, has not become the super app for crypto/payments/banking/ecommerce that Musk promised, gets advertising contracts through coercion, and got rid of moderation and became "anti-woke" (read "far right"), losing a lot of users. It does not look good for X as a platform. If xAI has good search results for current news, how long will that last if X continues the way it has been going? How long before those news results start to sound just as biased as Fox News or just become "alternative facts"?
From a scale standpoint, almost none of that matters. Enough people still use X / Twitter that there is a relatively valuable stream of data especially compared to what others have to pay for or don't have such realtime integration with. I think Meta is the only other one who can compete in that specific area.

They already sound biased, Grok especially with personas is a disaster but a portion of the public will still use it. If it gets too extreme they'll dial it back. Grok was #1 on the App store a couple weeks ago for a few days, and some gimmick hook is all it will take to get there again.

Elon worked with Nvidia to scale out an entire datacenter build in 19 days from first arrival to model training this summer. No other company is operating at even 20% that speed. Eventually it will pay some dividends.

I'm not saying it's the best model, or even a necessarily a good one given all of the concerns, but people who write it off entirely because of "mechahitler" kind of nonsense (which, yes that was obviously terrible) are missing the point.

Way, way too many people focus on the drama and clickbait outrage that we're all supposed to eat up every day and obsess over. There are real issues, I"m not discounting that, but they don't really matter in the long-term. Elon is still going to forge ahead, so will Mark Zuckerberg, so will Google, so will Sam Altman, etc.

The Eleanor Roosevelt quote:

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people" is extremely applicable to so many facets of modern life. Virtually all of the discourse and social media is flooded with the small minded and average minded points of view, few really see the long-term.

I say none of this defending these people, I have issues with them too, but I don't write off their products or the impacts they'll have because I disagree with the people running them. Facebook has been transformative, mostly in a bad way, and I don't use that platform at all. It's an objective fact, no matter how much I post about how terrible I think Mark is or genocides in Myanmar or whatever. None of it gets better telling other people at our level how terrible things are all it does is distract us from the paradigm shift of society happening whether we like it or not. It's best to be informed, from my point of view, not focused on clickbait nonsense that is ultimately trivial.

That said, people who really go out in public and actually protest, start competing organizations, etc. and operate in the real world not online have my utmost respect. The people that only do it on the internet are having zero impact. Society is a mess, these tools will probably mess it up more, and you telling me that or me telling other people that won't change a thing.
 
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Following a ChatGPT-5 article in theregister.com, I asked
“Who won the 2024 U.S. presidential election?”
It stumbled and couldn’t give an answer earlier this morning.
Just tried again and it told me Joe Biden won re-election in 2024 and was inaugurated in 2025.
…. Great… following right in Siri’s footsteps.
ChatGPT (and some other LLMs?) sometimes has a problem with political questions. Sometimes it will answer them with no argument, and other times it'll refuse, saying something to the effect that "I can't get into politics". When that happens, usually all I've needed to do is tell it "Yes you can", though sometimes I have to get a little more insistent.
 
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Yet Grok manages to have up to the minute information on current affairs.

I was asking it other day why AMD stocks dropped 6% after the earnings announcement, and it had current and up to date information.

What good is an AI that has a time-based lapse on knowledge?
Usually you can prompt ChatGPT to look online for current info by asking it something like "What's the current situation on ...?" So far, for me, using the word "current" has been all it takes, and usually you see it display "Searching the web..."
 
Except it doesn't make sense.


"With the rollout of GPT-5, OpenAI is getting rid of the model picker and retiring many of its older models, including GPT-4o, GPT-4.1, and GPT-4.5."

There is no reason it shouldn't be 5 on everything since the old models are supposedly gone now.
Where does it say ChatGPT 5 will only be in iOS 26? I'm using it under iOS 18 right now. OpenAI is no longer offering versions 4 and 4.5 to anyone.
 

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what free AI app we using on our phones? i really dont want another subscription but ChatGPT locks me out after just a few queries now. i have CoPilot and gemini and claude installed too.

As far as I can tell CoPilot doesn't lock you out and seems to be good at most of the tasks I throw at it.
 
lmao, all other companies are supporting gpt5 on day 1. Mean while Apple needs a month
 
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