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The upcoming iOS 27 and macOS 27 Golden Gate updates expand drawing tools to more of Apple's built-in apps across the iPhone and Mac.

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In the Messages app on iOS 27, there is a new "Drawing" option in the app drawer, which can be opened by tapping the plus sign in the bottom-left corner.

On older iOS versions, the Messages app once had a very basic drawing tool that was accessible by tapping a button on the keyboard in landscape orientation, but now Apple's complete set of Markup tools are available in the app.

On the Mac, macOS 27 adds the Markup tools to the Notes and Freeform apps.

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iOS 27 and macOS 27 are currently available in developer beta. The updates are expected to be released to the general public in September.

Article Link: iOS 27 Adds New Drawing Tool to Your iPhone's Messages App
 
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Honestly I think basic touch support is more likely. The screens are so thin on MacBook I’d almost be afraid to use the pencil . (Unless the new models drastically change that ofc)
I don't know if Pencil support is likely, but even if it's just touch, the display will likely need to get thicker due to the touch layer. And either way I think there would also need to be a change in form factor. Especially if there's Pencil support, but even if it's just touch, the current traditional clamshell form factor isn't ergonomically conducive. My preference would be a "floating" design somewhat like the iPad Magic Keyboard, but more like a Surface Laptop Studio.
 
I don't know if Pencil support is likely, but even if it's just touch, the display will likely need to get thicker due to the touch layer. And either way I think there would also need to be a change in form factor. Especially if there's Pencil support, but even if it's just touch, the current traditional clamshell form factor isn't ergonomically conducive. My preference would be a "floating" design somewhat like the iPad Magic Keyboard, but more like a Surface Laptop Studio.
There will be no separate touch layer.
Apple has requested Samsung’s on cell tech for the 14 and 16 inch OLED MacBook pros, meaning that the touch layer is implemented directly into the display glass.
 
There will be no separate touch layer.
Apple has requested Samsung’s on cell tech for the 14 and 16 inch OLED MacBook pros, meaning that the touch layer is implemented directly into the display glass.
Interesting. Got a link? Even if it's built into the glass, I'm inclined to think there's thickness penalty somewhere, maybe in the glass itself. Pretty rare that something can be added for free.
 
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I don't know if Pencil support is likely, but even if it's just touch, the display will likely need to get thicker due to the touch layer. And either way I think there would also need to be a change in form factor. Especially if there's Pencil support, but even if it's just touch, the current traditional clamshell form factor isn't ergonomically conducive. My preference would be a "floating" design somewhat like the iPad Magic Keyboard, but more like a Surface Laptop Studio.
Honestly I wouldn’t want the floating design on MacBook. . I hate how the Magic Keyboard opens and closes.
 
Honestly I wouldn’t want the floating design on MacBook. . I hate how the Magic Keyboard opens and closes.
Part of what bothers you might be the bulk and heft of the iPad which is the "lid"--it's much more cumbersome to open/close than the thin lid of a laptop, even one with a touch display. The lid on the Surface Laptop Studio that I mentioned works like any normal laptop, very easy to open/close. Then once opened, it has the second hinge to "float" the display if desired.
 
Interesting. Got a link? Even if it's built into the glass, I'm inclined to think there's thickness penalty somewhere, maybe in the glass itself. Pretty rare that something can be added for free.
“In his latest post on X (Twitter), Kuo writes that Apple's much-rumored OLED MacBook Pro will incorporate a touch panel using on-cell touch technology. On-cell touch technology integrates the touch sensors directly into the display panel's top layer (the "cell") rather than requiring a separate, dedicated touch layer.”

I’m pretty sure the OLED iPad pros over the last couple years have all used this technology, and as you know, switching from mini LED to OLED still allowed them to shave off of over a millimeter in thickness.
So either way, the smaller size requirements of OLED compared to mini LED will allow the display to be even thinner if Apple so chooses, touch or not.
 
I don't know if Pencil support is likely, but even if it's just touch, the display will likely need to get thicker due to the touch layer. And either way I think there would also need to be a change in form factor. Especially if there's Pencil support, but even if it's just touch, the current traditional clamshell form factor isn't ergonomically conducive. My preference would be a "floating" design somewhat like the iPad Magic Keyboard, but more like a Surface Laptop Studio.
This guy gets it! I completely agree with you.
The Mac would have to be completely redesigned…
 
“In his latest post on X (Twitter), Kuo writes that Apple's much-rumored OLED MacBook Pro will incorporate a touch panel using on-cell touch technology. On-cell touch technology integrates the touch sensors directly into the display panel's top layer (the "cell") rather than requiring a separate, dedicated touch layer.”

I’m pretty sure the OLED iPad pros over the last couple years have all used this technology, and as you know, switching from mini LED to OLED still allowed them to shave off of over a millimeter in thickness.
So either way, the smaller size requirements of OLED compared to mini LED will allow the display to be even thinner if Apple so chooses, touch or not.
Thanks for posting that. That's right that OLED by itself would definitely shave off some thickness. I was focusing on the aspect of adding touch, which by itself I'm still inclined to believe will add some thickness. The article talks about how integrating touch sensors removes the dedicated touch layer, but it doesn't specify whether or not it reintroduces some other thickness like thicker glass. And while I'm sure it's overall thinner than a dedicated touch layer, it still might (in my opinion likely) be thicker than a display without touch.
So whether the overall thickness of the new OLED touch display will be thicker/same/thinner than it is now would depend on the rough equation:

current thickness with mini LED
minus
thickness saved by going to OLED
plus
thickness added by switching to glass with integrated touch sensors

Some people here could probably estimate how much thinner it would get by going to OLED, but unless someone knows the thickness added by the last variable, we can't rule out the possibility that the overall thickness of the display will be thicker than it is now.
 
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