iOS 4.2 Supports Cellular Network Performance Improvement Technology

[RalfTheDog]

I don't know, I call bull here.

Apple has put code signing into pretty much every part of iOS even down to the raw bootloader. Notice there is no untethered jailbreak for 4.2.1 on iPhone 4 yet. If Apple weren't trying so hard to stop jailbreaking, jailbreaking wouldn't be taking so long.

It's curious, at least as far as unlocking is concerned. Apple gets fully paid for every iPhone they sell. They have no reason to fight unlocking so harshly, yet they do. It's all about control.

We just have to keep fighting the good fight.

I find it nice that my iPhone is not running exploit code making it dial a 1-900 number in Jamaica 20 times a second. Security is a good thing.

 

[goobot]

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When is hspa+ coming out?

to long island, never

blame the local hippies and your local government

.... Isn't it a software update to the network that pushes the current hardware to its fullest?

I mean I have 5 bars now and the 7.2 mb update when they released it.

 

[Eorlas]

This is to warranty that user are running latest code/version, improvement like this will help the network and phone performance, not to mentioned security in general, just last year GSM key cracking was expose. Forcing user to run latest code it is just an obvious step towers security. And of course they are going to patch the jailbreaking holes, it is a hole after all that need to be fix, the only diference is that it wasn't found by Apple QA but by hacker community.

So why doesn't apple come up with a simple, secure way that allows a jailbreak should people desire it? They already said they're not going to fight it a while ago.

Besides, jailbreaking adds a lot of functionality and other nice things that the appstore simply does not.

If you don't know about it, SBSettings is a tool that, when the status bar is swiped, drops down and has a bunch of buttons customized by the user that can, for example, quickly turn on/off Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G, EDGE, Airplane mode, SSH, SMS alerts, show your data usage, and kill all background apps at once. Those are just some that I have but there are others.

There's an app called biteSMS that has so much more functionality over the stock messaging app provided by apple. Not to mention it provides a "quickSMS" feature that allows the user to reply to messages from any app quickly in portrait or landscape mode and the user can even reply from the lock screen without having to go into the phone itself. I have friends that have jailbroken their iphones and love the app, and I converted a friend to jailbreaking their phone just because they could do something like that.

There's an app for configuring the lockscreen to show your mail, sms, notifications, calendar ,weather, etc.

Jailbreaking also allows you to setup themes on your phone to give it a different look and also allows you to have different SMS tones than the few apple provides. Some people might say "so what?" but maybe, people like me just like having their phone look unique or have a certain feel to it that themes provide.

Hell I even put a GBA emulator on it to play pokemon. Call me 5 years old if you so desire but I had a lot of fun playing that whatever years ago in middle school and it's another option for a thing to do between classes hear at the university.

I could keep going for all of the different things it does but it's essentially the app store that Apple doesn't have. It's not to say that I don't like the AppStore, but Cydia just goes a bit further and I think having both is great. No, I don't market anything on the store itself I'm not a programmer or anything so don't think I'm trying to promote this to make money. I'm just an end-user that sees a tremendous amount of functionality achieved through jailbreaking and I think apple should take a step to put in some code into iOS that allows for jailbreaking.

I'm not saying they should provide the jailbreak itself and have Cydia come with iOS, but I think they shouldn't hinder the process rather make it easy for DevTeam to implement and then leave it up to the user whether or not they want use it.

 

[madmaxmedia]

I don't know, I call bull here.

Apple has put code signing into pretty much every part of iOS even down to the raw bootloader. Notice there is no untethered jailbreak for 4.2.1 on iPhone 4 yet. If Apple weren't trying so hard to stop jailbreaking, jailbreaking wouldn't be taking so long.

It's curious, at least as far as unlocking is concerned. Apple gets fully paid for every iPhone they sell. They have no reason to fight unlocking so harshly, yet they do. It's all about control.

We just have to keep fighting the good fight.

I think their deal with AT&T probably includes some provision that Apple make reasonable efforts to plug up exploits that can lead to unlocking.

 

[maturola]

I'm not saying they should provide the jailbreak itself and have Cydia come with iOS, but I think they shouldn't hinder the process rather make it easy for DevTeam to implement and then leave it up to the user whether or not they want use it.

why?? really??

well...let me spell it for you " M O N E Y "

Apple needs/wants control over the App, the Development environment, the OS. Apple is out to get your money for the shareholders, not to actually make user Happy, now Making user happy + a brilliant marketing allow them to make money, but they need to retain control.

they are not going to expend money and resources on something that very little percentile of the user actually do, however they are not going to make it super easy so every casual user start doing it.

 

[wastedwardy]

It should be noted that O2 - like any other carrier, has a LOT of different sites built in different areas of the country. Many of those will contain equipment from a variety of manufacturers. Some of it will also be older.

They are unlikely to upgrade existing equipment as it would cost them too much.

Some vendor's network equipment allowed EDGE to be implemented with a software update. In places where that was the case, O2 rolled it out pretty quickly. Elsewhere (i.e. most of the network), GPRS is still all that you get.

Nope, the whole O2 UK RAN network is NSN.......and Edge requires a fairly large BTS hardware swapout.
Other operators in the UK do Multi-vendor RAN but O2 dont. And most other vendors don't allow Edge upgrades via patches (for a number of reasons, most involving £££)

 

[ipoddude56]

Regarding Apple fixing security with updates, when you Jailbreak you can install bug / security fixes via Cydia. These appear faster as the commuity discovers and patches them.

So as for Apple fixing a hole to block a jailbreak I would prefer to use 3rd party fixes to fix load more important ones.

 

[Jamie0003]

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You would rather trust random people through cydia to fix bugs other than apple? What if said fix actually exploits the bug and steals all your data? No thanks

 

[reactions]

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This is to warranty that user are running latest code/version, improvement like this will help the network and phone performance, not to mentioned security in general, just last year GSM key cracking was expose. Forcing user to run latest code it is just an obvious step towers security. And of course they are going to patch the jailbreaking holes, it is a hole after all that need to be fix, the only diference is that it wasn't found by Apple QA but by hacker community.

So why doesn't apple come up with a simple, secure way that allows a jailbreak should people desire it? They already said they're not going to fight it a while ago.

Besides, jailbreaking adds a lot of functionality and other nice things that the appstore simply does not.

If you don't know about it, SBSettings is a tool that, when the status bar is swiped, drops down and has a bunch of buttons customized by the user that can, for example, quickly turn on/off Bluetooth, Wifi, 3G, EDGE, Airplane mode, SSH, SMS alerts, show your data usage, and kill all background apps at once. Those are just some that I have but there are others.

There's an app called biteSMS that has so much more functionality over the stock messaging app provided by apple. Not to mention it provides a "quickSMS" feature that allows the user to reply to messages from any app quickly in portrait or landscape mode and the user can even reply from the lock screen without having to go into the phone itself. I have friends that have jailbroken their iphones and love the app, and I converted a friend to jailbreaking their phone just because they could do something like that.

There's an app for configuring the lockscreen to show your mail, sms, notifications, calendar ,weather, etc.

Jailbreaking also allows you to setup themes on your phone to give it a different look and also allows you to have different SMS tones than the few apple provides. Some people might say "so what?" but maybe, people like me just like having their phone look unique or have a certain feel to it that themes provide.

Hell I even put a GBA emulator on it to play pokemon. Call me 5 years old if you so desire but I had a lot of fun playing that whatever years ago in middle school and it's another option for a thing to do between classes hear at the university.

I could keep going for all of the different things it does but it's essentially the app store that Apple doesn't have. It's not to say that I don't like the AppStore, but Cydia just goes a bit further and I think having both is great. No, I don't market anything on the store itself I'm not a programmer or anything so don't think I'm trying to promote this to make money. I'm just an end-user that sees a tremendous amount of functionality achieved through jailbreaking and I think apple should take a step to put in some code into iOS that allows for jailbreaking.

I'm not saying they should provide the jailbreak itself and have Cydia come with iOS, but I think they shouldn't hinder the process rather make it easy for DevTeam to implement and then leave it up to the user whether or not they want use it.

Well said - I love bitesms! Via the sinfuliphonerepo

Anyways as a former jailbroken 2g and 3G iPhone tmobile user I'm a little disappointed in att.'s-iPhone 4 signal strength

I often never get full bars as I did with tmobile. Fortunately I don't do much talking so dropped calls haven't been an issue

I also recommend 3G unrestrictor cracked via sinful my friends

 

[smithrh]

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.... Isn't it a software update to the network that pushes the current hardware to its fullest?

I mean I have 5 bars now and the 7.2 mb update when they released it.

No - HSPA+ requires physical work at the cell site; new antennas, cables, cards, etc.

It also requires an HSPA+ capable mobile, which - AFAIK - the iPhone is not.

AT&T announced - to my surprise - that they've already upgraded all of their 3G sites to HSPA+. But you'll need a compatible device to get the full benefit of it.

 

[kas23]

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My iPhone 4 running 4.2.1 neither has better battery life nor better reception. Oh well, it was nice reading about it.

As for Apple not caring or devoting resources to JB prevention; has an iPhone update ever come out that didn't destroy a JB? Is this just mere coincidence then?

 

[Stella]

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You would rather trust random people through cydia to fix bugs other than apple? What if said fix actually exploits the bug and steals all your data? No thanks

FUD.

The same thing could be said about mac apps, i.e: The last app you downloaded from MacUpdate or elsewhere, how do you know it didn't steal all your iCal AddressBook , and more , data?

 

[ipoddude56]

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You would rather trust random people through cydia to fix bugs other than apple? What if said fix actually exploits the bug and steals all your data? No thanks

I have no important data on my phone anyway so willing take that risk (my choice)

Also there is an element of trust and reviewing others who have looked over the fixes, this is how freeware antivirus / malware fixes work.

 

[smithrh]

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My iPhone 4 running 4.2.1 neither has better battery life nor better reception. Oh well, it was nice reading about it.

This requires not only 4.2.1 but also that the network that you're accessing has the capability. It's possible (or maybe even likely) that the network is not yet upgraded, or that your particular usage pattern won't see an increase.

 

[goobot]

No - HSPA+ requires physical work at the cell site; new antennas, cables, cards, etc.

It also requires an HSPA+ capable mobile, which - AFAIK - the iPhone is not.

AT&T announced - to my surprise - that they've already upgraded all of their 3G sites to HSPA+. But you'll need a compatible device to get the full benefit of it.

Apple said the iPhone 4 has hspa+

 

[firewood]

I don't know, I call bull here.

Apple has put code signing into pretty much every part of iOS even down to the raw bootloader. Notice there is no untethered jailbreak for 4.2.1 on iPhone 4 yet. If Apple weren't trying so hard to stop jailbreaking, jailbreaking wouldn't be taking so long.

Jailbreakers aren't the important target. Device security in general is. Apple is try to make their iOS devices as secure as the competition or better, so that they can better sell their devices to enterprise customers, IT departments, paranoid users, and the few remaining exclusive cellular providers. That's where the big money is. The amount of Apple's 30% cut of "lost" (and convertible) sales due to jailbreaking is currently relatively microscopic, and keeping it that way is good for growing the number of paid app developers, but it's still small potatoes.

 

[Ashin]

Worse battery and worse signal.

Wish Apple would allow downgrades, makes me sick how bad they are at customer service and customer satisfaction

 

[michaelsviews]

Try going in and resetting the network settings, I have the 3G, and do this once a month.

AT&T's network goes from horrible to good and vice versa, also GSM is affected by weather more than CDMA. Just waiting till VZW release's the iPhone and seeing how it goes before making any jumps.

If anything I'll switch to VZW and make my device a wifi/mifi and go from there, than again I may just go pay as you go. WTFK's ................

GREED is Running the world into poverty

 

[kdarling]

Apple said the iPhone 4 has hspa+

Apple's website states that the iPhone 4 has HSDPA and HSUPA, but not HSPA+.