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bandofbrothers

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Oct 14, 2007
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Hi.

This will be the first time I will have updated a full new firmware on my iPhone 4.

So does anyone have any idea how long it will take to update from iOS 4 to iOS 5 ?

Don't want to be late for work !

To my understanding iTunes will need updating to a newest version too !
 
Are you restoring after updating?

Or are you setting it up as a new iPhone?

If the former, allow yourself some time as iCloud will be downloading all of your apps + songs. Even if not via iCloud, wired iTunes syncing takes just as much time, ok, maybe a bit less.

If the latter, then the whole process is under 20 minutes provided you have a decent internet connexion.
 
Is there an official time that the update will be rolled out?

iOS updates normally get released around 9-10am (pacific) and OS X updates normally get released between 1-3pm (pacific).

iOS 4.3 9:00am
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/03/0...lay-and-safari-improvements-personal-hotspot/

iOS 4.2 9:00am
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/22/ios-4-2-1-now-available/

iOS 4.1 9:40am
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/09/08/apple-releases-ios-4-1-for-iphone-and-ipod-touch/

iOS 4.0 9:30am
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/21/apple-releases-ios-4-with-multitasking-ibooks-and-more/
 
Are you restoring after updating?

Or are you setting it up as a new iPhone?

If the former, allow yourself some time as iCloud will be downloading all of your apps + songs. Even if not via iCloud, wired iTunes syncing takes just as much time, ok, maybe a bit less.

If the latter, then the whole process is under 20 minutes provided you have a decent internet connexion.


Why would an existing user choose the option to set it up as a new iPhone 4 ?
I want to keep all that's on my phone now and utilise cloud too.

On consideration I think it's best I endure the working day and perform the update in the evening !

I may just update my iTunes in the morning so it's ready.
 
Why would an existing user choose the option to set it up as a new iPhone 4 ?
I want to keep all that's on my phone now and utilise cloud too.

On consideration I think it's best I endure the working day and perform the update in the evening !

I may just update my iTunes in the morning so it's ready.

But if you update, then backup app data, then setup as new and redownload your app data, you should have a somewhat zippier phone.
 
I always setup my device as New after a major OS update, it just gives me another reason to play Angry Birds again (and achieve 3 stars).

To be honest, I don't have any app on my phone that if I were to loose its data, I would be upset about it. I have games that I have achieved high scores on, but I figured if I did it once, I can do it again.
 
But if you update, then backup app data, then setup as new and redownload your app data, you should have a somewhat zippier phone.

How do you backup and redownload app data? Do you mean setup as new, and then restore from a previous backup?
 
Don't try and do it in the morning before you go to work.

That is what I am going to do. You can unplug your phone after you get the download started and it will ask of you want to continue to download but install later, you click yes and go to work.
 
I have a about 10 gig of data on my 16 gig 3gs and it took about 20 mins to update with the GM.

Hope that helps.

p.s I have a 8meg internet connection.
 
The spoeed of you Internet connection will matter very little. The spped of your downlaod will depend on just how fast the Apple servers will be able to send it to you. It is not going to be pretty for a few days.
 
How do you backup and redownload app data? Do you mean setup as new, and then restore from a previous backup?

You can save your app data etc to iCloud, and then get it at a later date on a clean install (as far as I understand)
 
You can save your app data etc to iCloud, and then get it at a later date on a clean install (as far as I understand)

Yep, there is an option to back up to iTunes of to iCloud etc. I'm currently sticking with iTunes untill tomorrow as I haven't changed over my MobileMe account to iCloud yet.
 

Ok, thanks. Is there really any point in that though? How is that any different from just updating your current installation?

Apologies if I am missing something obvious, not an expert on this.

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You can save your app data etc to iCloud, and then get it at a later date on a clean install (as far as I understand)

I see, thanks.

But surely you can't backup to iCloud until you've installed iOS5? So the process would be:

1. Backup to iTunes
2. Clean install iOS5
3. Restore from backup of iOS4.x
4. Backup to iCloud

Is that right?
 
The spoeed of you Internet connection will matter very little. The spped of your downlaod will depend on just how fast the Apple servers will be able to send it to you. It is not going to be pretty for a few days.

Last time apple servers were quite slow since a million people were updating their iOSs at the same time... :(
 
Yep, there is an option to back up to iTunes of to iCloud etc. I'm currently sticking with iTunes untill tomorrow as I haven't changed over my MobileMe account to iCloud yet.

Wait, so if I choose to backup to iCloud it doesn't backup to iTunes any more?

I want to import my settings and app data to a clean iOS5 install and continue to sync with iTunes. Have I greatly misunderstood how the process works?

But surely you can't backup to iCloud until you've installed iOS5? So the process would be:

1. Backup to iTunes
2. Clean install iOS5
3. Restore from backup of iOS4.x
4. Backup to iCloud

Is that right?

My plan was to:

1. backup to iTunes
2. update to iOS5
3. backup to to iCloud
4. restore as new device
5. sync app data, etc from iCloud
6. continue to use iTunes rather than iCloud

Can anyone tell me if I've misunderstood how it all works? All I want to do it set up my device as new and be able to keep my app data
 
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Wait, so if I choose to backup to iCloud it doesn't backup to iTunes any more?

I want to import my settings and app data to a clean iOS5 install and continue to sync with iTunes. Have I greatly misunderstood how the process works?

I think so. You get a warning advising you will no longer sync with itunes via wifi (maybe because its syncing to iCloud wirelessly. you should be able to manually sync via wire.
 
My plan was to:

1. backup to iTunes
2. update to iOS5
3. backup to to iCloud
4. restore as new device
5. sync app data, etc from iCloud
6. continue to use iTunes rather than iCloud

Can anyone tell me if I've misunderstood how it all works? All I want to do it set up my device as new and be able to keep my app data

Thanks, I think I will follow your first 5 steps.

Surely we will still have to sync with iTunes to transfer music etc, so it will backup in iTunes then?
 
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