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Merkie

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First: don't get me wrong, the iOS 5 lockscreen is definitely an improvement over... no lockscreen at all, but for a lockscreen it's kinda sucky.

Here are my main gripes. First, it looks sooo "hacked". It looks like a Cydia hack, and I can't stand the fact that each notification is about a few pixels smaller than the screen. It doesn't look very Applish. The slide-to-view looks also... weird.

Second, it's still very much in your face. It looks kind of bloated, and a few notifications will fill the entire screen. I understand that people might prefer it this way, but a more subtle lockscreen would definitely have my preference. Instead of showing each e-mail, for instance, the lockscreen could just say: E-mails: 5 unread. The same goes for missed calls and text messages. The lock screen now just shows a lot of personal stuff, only a home button click away. You can hide some of that, but not everything. Again, a little more subtle please. I can always pull down the notification bar whenever I want it.

Speaking of the notification bar, why a stocks & weither widget, but no quick settings widget?! How about easily switching off WiFi/BT and changing the brightness? Please?

Anyway, it's kind of as of Apple was annoyed by all the notification requests and thought "You wanted notifications? Well here they are!". Meh. It is quite useful though, and although I said "I hate it" in the topic title, I'm pretty much just trying to say there's a lot of room for improvement.

Summary: bloated, ugly, in-your-face, shows too much personal stuff

Anyone else agree?
 
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Merkie said:
First: don't get me wrong, the iOS 5 lockscreen is definitely an improvement over... no lockscreen at all, but for a lockscreen it's kinda sucky.

Here are my main gripes. First, it looks sooo "hacked". It looks like a Cydia hack, and I can't stand the fact that each notification is about a few pixels smaller than the screen. It doesn't look very Applish. The slide-to-view looks also... weird.

Second, it's still very much in your face. It looks kind of bloated, and a few notifications will fill the entire screen. I understand that people might prefer it this way, but a more subtle lockscreen would definitely have my preference. Instead of showing each e-mail, for instance, the lockscreen could just say: E-mails: 5 unread. The same goes for missed calls and text messages. The lock screen now just shows a lot of personal stuff, only a home button click away. You can hide some of that, but not everything. Again, a little more subtle please. I can always pull down the notification whenever I want it.

It's kind of as of Apple was annoyed by the notification requests and thought "You wanted notifications? Well here they are!". Meh. It is quite useful though, and although I said I hate in the topic title, I'm pretty much just trying to say there's a lot of room for improvement.

Summary: bloated, ugly, in-your-face, shows too much personal stuff

Anyone else agree?

I agree with that its a few pixels smaller. I hope that's just a bug.
 
Apple still playing catch up to the JB Dev Community. Even the old WinMo lock screen still looks better or at least more informative. Apple is just barely introducing the masses things I saw from Intelliscreen back in 2008.

LockInfo is 3.0 Ready
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/735908/

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Apple Owes the Jailbreak Community an Apology

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/06/10/apple-owes-jailbreak-community-apology/

The relationship between Apple and the jailbreak community has always been an interesting one. Ever since the first, public iPhone jailbreak was displayed in 2007, Apple and jailbreakers have been fighting in a secret, underground war. Fast forward to 2011, and you can do a lot more with a jailbroken iPhone than just add custom ringtones.

On Monday, Apple unveiled iOS 5. Version 5 was called Apple’s most “revolutionary” iOS release to date. Oddly enough, many features that have been in the jailbreak community for years are now present in iOS 5. In fact, Apple has borrowed (some would say stolen) ideas from jailbreak developers for years, and iOS 5 is the most current, blatant example.
 
Well, at least Apple didn't steal or borrow the stability issues, you know where the iPhone locks up and jailbreak apps crash and makes the phone reboot into safe mode... :rolleyes:
 
Apple should have paid or worked with the Lockinfo Dev it's been one of the most popular and need to haves in Cydia since it was released. it's probably the reason Apple decided to finally ad it. just like they should have used Backgrounder instead of there failed Multitasking stuff AlsoSbsettings is another must Apple will probably add someday there own version of. I love Apple but sometimes they need to check the ego at the door. bitesms is also better then any Apple SMS program.
 
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AlphaDogg said:
Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't get email notifications on my lock screen (iOS5.0b4 ota updated from b3).

You have to turn on e-mail notifications in Settings, they're switched off by default.
 
I had to remove LockInfo from cydia since it would bypass my lockscreen security password, and go right to my home screen. If I lost my phone, people could get to job related sensitive information. I hope I don't run into these issues with the i0S5 release.
 
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Did you report your issues to Apple? http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
 
I had to remove LockInfo from cydia since it would bypass my lockscreen security password, and go right to my home screen. If I lost my phone, people could get to job related sensitive information. I hope I don't run into these issues with the i0S5 release.
You can always turn off the banners that appear on the lock screen for certain apps. That way, all you can see from your lock screen is your background and the time/date.
Did you report your issues to Apple?

I wouldn't say the OP has issues.. He just doesn't like the new notification system.
 
Apple still playing catch up to the JB Dev Community. Even the old WinMo lock screen still looks better or at least more informative. Apple is just barely introducing the masses things I saw from Intelliscreen back in 2008.

LockInfo is 3.0 Ready
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/735908/

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Apple Owes the Jailbreak Community an Apology

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/06/10/apple-owes-jailbreak-community-apology/

The relationship between Apple and the jailbreak community has always been an interesting one. Ever since the first, public iPhone jailbreak was displayed in 2007, Apple and jailbreakers have been fighting in a secret, underground war. Fast forward to 2011, and you can do a lot more with a jailbroken iPhone than just add custom ringtones.

On Monday, Apple unveiled iOS 5. Version 5 was called Apple’s most “revolutionary” iOS release to date. Oddly enough, many features that have been in the jailbreak community for years are now present in iOS 5. In fact, Apple has borrowed (some would say stolen) ideas from jailbreak developers for years, and iOS 5 is the most current, blatant example.


What is the name of the background? :confused:

(Gray and Girl) I have seen this background used numerously yet I can't seem to know the name of it.
 
Agreed wholeheartedly! Apple's new notifications on the Lock Screen just plain suck compared to Lock Info!

There's absolutely no customizability in how many you'd like to show up... they aren't grouped so you can collapse similar notifications into groups (i.e., On a main Facebook banner that you can open to see all the Facebook notifications, one main email banner that collapses to hold all the email notifications etc. - to see what I mean look at a screen cap of Lock Info) Implementing this would save having to scroll forever on the lock screen if you have a pile of new notifications!

The notifications on the Lock Screen disappear once you unlock, and don't come back! Not good if you want the info to stay there to remind you of something... which brings me to my next point:

Calendar entries, and weather won't show on the Lock Screen, even with 'Show On Lockscreen' enabled in settings. Same with Reminders. This also goes for third party weather apps with push notifications and notification centre support (like Weather i5 - it only shows in notification centre, not the lock screen) - does anyone know how to enable these so they show on the Lock Screen? I mean it MUST be possible to get it to work because there are a few new apps made for iOS 5 that do manage to get entries on the lock screen (slide ToDo and Slide to Buy are examples - and they also stay even after you unlock and lock your screen again) So I know it's possible!

Apple should just swallow their pride and allow Lock Info to be sold on the App Store. I wouldn't say I would NEVER jailbreak again (I still like 3G Unrestrictor and iBlacklist and SBSettings), but I'd be a LOT less tempted to do so if I had a functional 'TODAY SCREEN' on my lock screen, because Lock Info is my #1 reason for Jailbreaking!

I mean, my old Windows Mobile had a today screen!! My Blackberry had a today screen! Why does Apple insist that all your info be fragmented so you need to go into a handful of different apps each separately to see all of your 'Today' info!?

At the VERY VERY least, put a setting to allow the actual Notification Center to be pulled down on the Lock Screen as well! (those who don't want that info available while their device is locked can turn it off!)
 
Lock Info? People are actually holding that up as a positive example?

Apple's isn't perfect, I agree, but what about Lock Info about be an improvement? It looks terrible.
 
I never understood the lock screen notifications in iOS 5. They look ok, yeah. And I'm glad I have them compared to having nothing, yeah. But they are so minimal. I'm sure we will eventually see a better looking/more functional version that is Apple approved but for now I'm really surprised at how bland they made it.
 
I think the biggest problem right now w/ IOS is that it is trying to accommodate none techie people too much by having their interface barely moving since 2007.

Problem with this approach however is that eventually all mobile OS will be on tablet/laptop.(Both apple and android is trying but I can see that it will be faster by android since apple already have their own laptop). It already started with tablet like transformer(and soon to be due out the prime) where without people really realizing, they will start using them as a tablet and then as a laptop. Pretty soon, community will realize that android is a viable option as a full time laptop(I know it's not ready at the moment).
Whether that is really viable option is not the point. People will turn to whatever they are more familiar with.

I think this is why apple is trying to make OSX more like IOS. More and more people use mobile device and spend more time on it and therefore it is the UI they are most comfortable w/.

I am not sure there is a solution.

There is no denying that IOS 5, which was more than year and a half in the making was a let down.
It should allow people to do some customization.(Trust me, this didn't even make my main complaints about iOs 5 )
 
Apple tries to balance their UI decisions catering to the average users that are not so tech savvy in comparison to the jailbreak community.

I find it good that the jailbreak community comes up with great ideas, test them out, figure what works best. Apple could just cherry pick the good ideas to the rest of the. Most things they release are not new, just rehash of proven ideas polished up and dumbed down for everyone to use.

I see it as a win win for both.
 
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