iOS 6 b4 - Every music streaming app is now low quality

Discussion in 'iOS 6' started by 0000757, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. 0000757, Aug 7, 2012
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2012

    0000757 macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    One thing I've noticed after upgrading to iOS 6 b4 is that every music streaming app I've tried produces low quality music, even if in the settings of the app you specifically have high quality turned on.

    Apps I've tried are:
    Slacker Radio

    Is it possible that Apple may be limiting the quality that music streaming apps can produce in order to push people towards it's Match service and to buy more songs on iTunes? Or maybe Apple is preparing people as it gets ready to launch it's own service?

    This problem didn't happen on any other betas. I've done reinstalls of all apps, cleared them, even a full restore and set up as a new device. Thoughts?

    EDIT: After downgrading to iOS 6 b3, all my streaming apps have gone back to high quality music. I'll refrain from updating until b5 or GM.
  2. petrucci666 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 30, 2009
    Los Angeles, CA

    I really doubt they would do this. Even with Apple's closed-environment and various restrictions, they are making enough money on iTunes as is. There are even rumors of them starting their own streaming service, or perhaps maybe even buying a company like Spotify.
  3. gr8whtd0pe macrumors 6502a


    Feb 21, 2008
    Belle, WV
  4. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    Yes I know it was a beta. If it was just one app I would've thought it was conflicting with some changes in APIs with the beta but when they are all doing it, it gave me some suspicion. I've never had all of my music streaming apps be low quality on the previous iOS 6 betas, except for the occasional Pandora downgrade, in which case all I had to do was close it and reopen it. I was curious if may Apple was holding a tighter fist over streaming in order to get others to use iTunes/iTunes Match.
  5. SirithX macrumors 6502


    Feb 21, 2007
    San Francisco
    Of course, if anything it's a bug. I haven't noticed this personally though, I'll have to give it a shot and see if I notice any difference in b4.
  6. dethmaShine macrumors 68000

    Apr 13, 2010
    Into the lungs of Hell
    Absolutely NOT.
  7. BRussell macrumors member

    Aug 25, 2002
    Maybe your tinfoil hat is interfering with your wireless connection? :p

    Seriously, it is interesting that they seem to be playing around with streaming quality and bandwidth in these betas. It makes sense that they might use some type of adaptive streaming quality that would change based on the speed of your data connection, but it's highly doubtful there's a conspiracy of the type you're suggesting. One piece of evidence against it is that there are other threads where people are complaining about a downgrade in streaming quality with Apple's own iTunes Match.
  8. PurrBall macrumors 65816


    Oct 25, 2007
    I was listening to Spotify for hours over AirPlay last night and didn't notice any difference.
  9. 8a22a macrumors 6502a


    Mar 9, 2012
    Yorkshire, UK
    Spotify seems the same to me. DragonForce are still sounding awesome. ;)
  10. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    Alright, just wanted to make sure I'm not going crazy! Hopefully the apps will go back to playing the high quality I want them to be!
  11. madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    I think that's illegal.
  12. fishkorp macrumors 68020


    Apr 10, 2006
    Ellicott City, MD
    Spotify, even playing offline sync'd songs, sounds like garbage on beta 4. So it's not just streaming.
  13. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    I can confirm and back up my claim that iOS 6 b4 is breaking something with the fact that I just downgraded to iOS 6 b3 and all my music streaming apps are back to streaming music normally in high quality. I'll probably stick on iOS 6 beta 3 until the GM/Beta 5 comes around.
  14. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

    Oct 15, 2008
    I don't even know where to start with that sentence.


    Dragonforce ALWAYS sound awesome!b:)
  15. sakau2007 macrumors 6502

    Oct 12, 2011
    Why are some of you so sure that Apple isn't reducing the quality to steer people towards their own services?

    Apple is notorious for doing things like this. They took away a functioning Siri app to try to force 3GS and 4 users to consider an upgrade to the 4S. They have made it impossible to sync music with extraordinary music organization programs... instead forcing the iTunes bloatware on us.

    This wouldn't really be a stretch for Apple, imo.

    Hopefully this isn't what they are doing, but people saying absolutely not... show me your proof.
  16. iBeast macrumors member

    Jan 24, 2007
    Trolling? Please bring proof or else you are simply stirring the pot.
  17. jabingla2810 macrumors 68020

    Oct 15, 2008
    Apple forced everyone to use iTunes so everyone had a consistent user experience.

    This not only helps users but Apple. They don't have to make sure their devices work well with 20 different software packages.

    Next, if Apple was really worried about Spotify they would ban the app, not cripple it. And even then they wouldn't ban the app because it doesn't break any of the App Store rules.
  18. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    I'm not trolling. All of those apps had very obviously reduced in quality. I was simply asking if maybe Apple had gained tighter control over other streaming apps to get people to herd towards iTunes Match & iTunes and possibly their own competing streaming service that they might launch with the new iTunes update...
  19. Cyclone Chris macrumors regular

    Jul 14, 2008
    I also noticed a quality loss on the same songs I played on Mog from b3 to b4. I'm pretty pissed about it.
  20. sakau2007 macrumors 6502

    Oct 12, 2011
    Apple doesn't really have to worry if some random software works with their device. They really only have to concern themselves with iTunes. The fact is, they go out of their way to make sure other software DOESN'T work with their devices.

    Please don't give me that "user experience" crap. Apple devotes resources to making sure I'm forced to use iTunes. And given that iTunes is crappy bloatware, that's the complete opposite of what you are insinuating.
  21. shawndre macrumors member

    Oct 17, 2008
    I am having the same problem. Terrible audio quality from pandora on beta 5
  22. sakau2007 macrumors 6502

    Oct 12, 2011
    How is he trolling? He is reporting an inexcusable problem and offering a potential reason why.

    Trolling would be someone completely dismissing the idea without providing any proof of their own, or their own theory...

    ...Like you for instance.
  23. shawndre macrumors member

    Oct 17, 2008
    And iTunes Match is just as bad. Songs cut off about 1 minute early and play the next song while still displaying the previous song.
  24. Krevnik macrumors 68040


    Sep 8, 2003
    While he went a bit overboard in the response, should I be expected to provide evidence the OP is wrong when the OP hasn't provided any evidence that he is right? Some steps to reproduce it, or a description of how the sound is worse so we can understand the problem better would be helpful. "Sound quality is worse", while helpful is kinda vague. Does it just sound like the bitrate dropped? Are there specific qualities to the sound that I should be looking for?

    Any potential reasons we go over here are just idle speculation. Assuming malice when it could be a bug, especially in the lack of good evidence is pretty screwy.

    As long as we are just throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks, what about that new "Wifi Plus Cellular" feature? Could that be making these apps think they are on cellular and go into data-saving mode when they aren't? Maybe not since one guy reports it on music they saved to the device, but it is something that's changed in Beta 4 that would explain the bug.
  25. tarasis macrumors 6502a


    Oct 26, 2007
    Here, there and everywhere
    Yes, it sounds like a bug, you are running a beta after all. Report it via

    Audio / video bugs are not uncommon, in previous seeds (either iOS 4 betas or iOS 5, don't remember now) Streamtome video playing broke. BBC's global iPlayer app often breaks with betas. It's not a conspiracy on Apples part. Hell the last two betas had Home Sharing broken!


    Why on earth are you pissed? You are running a beta after all!

    It's likely a bug so if you haven't then file a report the more reports from people the faster it will likely get fixed. Pissing in the wind here will do squat.

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