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iOS 6 Maps with 'Flyover' 3D Hacked to Run on iPhone 4
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... well then why isn't the feature included for the 3gs? you're pretty much proving the point you're arguing against
The 3gs and 4 do not have the audio filters which help to focus in on human voices. There could be a legal worry for Apple in presenting a phone in which Siri either 1) might not work in noisy cars, or 2) hears directions improperly and sends someone on a wrong course. I understand the frustration, but in this case there is a technical justification.
Then they should be preparing another unannounced "new feature" in iOS6 that's exclusive for iPhone 5? (or whatever the new device will be called...)
They didn't announce Siri until the time of 4S release.
Or do they think just the larger display and a new processor would attract 4S users to upgrade? Maybe.
3D map isn't that much of an excitement for me although it looks cool, since the map its self doesn't seem to be any better than google's....
I'm sort of a bit worried if it's usable outside of the U.S. too
They didn't announce Siri until the time of 4S release.
Or do they think just the larger display and a new processor would attract 4S users to upgrade? Maybe.
3D map isn't that much of an excitement for me although it looks cool, since the map its self doesn't seem to be any better than google's....
I'm sort of a bit worried if it's usable outside of the U.S. too
The only problem with your argument is that turn by turn does not require Siri, so that has nothing to do with it. In iOS6, iPad 2 gets turn by turn navigation, but does not get Siri.
with the almost identical hardware similarities between the first gen iPad and iPhone 4/3GS does anyone think its gonna ever be possible to hack iOS 6 onto the first Gen iPad?
Mine is currently running 5 and its fine no slow downs or anything nice and rather smooth, just a shame I cant run iOS 6
I paid like £600 in total for my iPad around Xmas 2010 with the lil extras and what not, just seems like I shoulda put the money towards a MacBook Air LOL.
if iOS 6 is running on a 3GS adequately I cant see why the first gen iPad cant run it, surely its got more than enough horse power with its 1Ghz A4 chip to handle the OS LOL
I guess thats what I get for being an early adopter
at least my 4S can run all the features
iPad first Gen has too less RAM. Crashing on iOS 5 with normal use is enough. With my 3GS is way slow on iOS 5 too.
Because you lost street view?
Street view is a total gimmick! How could not having it ruin the whole iOS experience to the point you wish you never installed it? Just curious.
I wouldn't say it ruins the whole iOS experience. And honestly, I keep forgetting I can do it on my iphone (how Apple implements you using it is totally non intuitive), but it is actually useful. If you've never been somewhere it gives you an idea of what to look for to know you're there/nearby (and that is really helpful honestly).
Though it looks like the flyover, where available, will be almost as good for that if not as good. Only thing is I'm pretty sure Google probably has more places covered with streetview than Apple with flyover.
That being said, it ran about as well as I expected on the 4, lag render, lag render, lag render. I wonder how good his internet connection was and how many other things he was running on the 4 (basically was that in ideal conditions or was it in non ideal conditions. That's about the best I'd expect the 4 to be able to do honestly so I'm guessing ideal).
Whatever, I don't care, I'm ditching the 4 when the new iphone comes out anyways
(and I was planning on doing so unless they did something to mess up the phone way before the iOS6 announcement. If I wasn't planning on doing so, I'd just accept that to save money and not buy a new phone meant I didn't get some of the new shinies and at least be happy I was getting some shinies. Though I admit I might not go to iOS6 until google came out with their maps ap cause without flyover, Apple maps kinda sux without having streetview). And honestly, Apple puts in money making that software, I think they have a right to say that they reserve the shiniest features for people buying the newer devices. You know they could just charge everyone for the new iOS instead. Or alternatively not even give it to the older phones. I know before I had an iphone I didn't expect to get any new functionality at all until my contract was up and I could buy another phone. And I don't expect them to give me the newest Mac OS free... it's nice they do support your phone and upgrade the OS at least for the length of time of your standard cellphone contract (and a little more honestly.. you guys think the 4 got shafted? The first iphone wasn't even supported at all on the second OS to come out after it).----------
And if you bought it recently you got it for free and you had to realize it wasn't going to be as good as the more expensive iphones.
If you expected it to last as long as the 4S you're really really naive and kinda tech illiterate.
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You mad?
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If the phone is obsolete, then why continue selling it?
Because, believe it or not, there are some people who don't care or need the latest features. It's just nice enough to have a phone that does more than a dumbphone and does some basic stuff like check email and go on the web and maybe help look up items when shopping.
People like my stepmom.
They are smart by going with the cheaper phone as it won't matter to them if it goes out of date or it may not support the newest features (They just want it for what it does already and don't need it to do more). But if you actually care about having the latest and greatest and you went for the cheapest iphone/smartphone, you are living in a fantasy world.
I stand corrected I guess. I thought turn-by-turn used Siri. How does it announce direction updates if Siri is not available?
Actually I believe you are partially correct... you can ask siri for directions and it accesses turn by turn for you... but you can also access turn by turn the old fashioned map way {smiles}
Like many people, you're mixing Siri the AI piece, together with the voice recognition and output piece (which is widely assumed to be Nuance).
It doesn't matter what does the input and output for Siri. The voice input and output are just like having another keyboard and display.
Siri simply takes the decoded text input, uses current context to figure out what you mean, and sends a text answer to output (print and/or voice).
For voice navigation, all that's needed is the voice output part. No AI.
It's probably just using the same voice as Siri. The same voice used by VoiceOver on an iPod Touch, which also doesn't have Siri.
3D view
This didn't take long ...
However, I would jailbreak my IOS device just for this, although looks neat... I'd rather use it on my iPad or iPhone 4S.
No doubt this will be an update though... given time....
lol... naturally, they do everything backwards.
This didn't take long ...
However, I would jailbreak my IOS device just for this, although looks neat... I'd rather use it on my iPad or iPhone 4S.
No doubt this will be an update though... given time....
lol... naturally, they do everything backwards.
As a 4S owner I still think its a dick move for them to lock out turn by turn on the 4. It looked like it was enabled by this jailbreak hack as well though, so hopefully that at least remains as an option.
And if it becomes publicized enough that 4 hardware is more than capable for turn by turn, maybe apple will have a "change of heart".
Giving turn by turn to every device that can run ios6 feels like the least they can do when they're asking us to adopt (aka beta test) their as-of-yet unproven mapping solution. And for anyone saying "just don't upgrade" its worth noting that many carriers will not support anything but the most recent operating software available for a device. Couple that with 3 year contracts in countries like Canada, and you aren't left with many choices are already locked in for a while with a 4.
And if it becomes publicized enough that 4 hardware is more than capable for turn by turn, maybe apple will have a "change of heart".
Giving turn by turn to every device that can run ios6 feels like the least they can do when they're asking us to adopt (aka beta test) their as-of-yet unproven mapping solution. And for anyone saying "just don't upgrade" its worth noting that many carriers will not support anything but the most recent operating software available for a device. Couple that with 3 year contracts in countries like Canada, and you aren't left with many choices are already locked in for a while with a 4.
Agreed, it is a dick move. I really refuse to believe that it's a hardware limitation seeing as we've had navigation apps running on iOS since the iPhone 3G.
This is why I love the jailbreaking community.
For what it's worth, panning 3D maps is slow on my iPad 3 as well. The momentum-base scrolling seems a little broken as well. It looks like there's still some optimization that needs to be done.
Are we watching the same video? It looked incredibly slow and choppy to me. Barely usable.
Now, I don't know if it's because Maps is still in beta and not ready, but I'd hardly call the performance in this video good.
Yes, I understand the technology underlying Siri, but Apple tends to use Siri to describe the whole enchilada -- the input, AI, and personality. I didn't know they were using specific components of Siri -- specifically her voice personality -- where normally Siri is not allowed, such as the iPad 2.
Is it possible that Apple is just trying to keep the numbers relatively small that they have to serve? While Siri maybe coming out of beta, the amount of servers Apple needs to keep everything running might not be adequate if everyone had all of the features for iOS6. By limiting the number of users initially, Apple can get a handle on what they need to do to serve a larger audience
Perhaps all the features will be available for iPhone 4 users in the future.
Why wouldn't it "last as long as the 4S"? Longevity has to do with how well the phone is built.
Do you mean to say that it may not have as good a feature upgrade life? As you already wrote yourself "... believe it or not, there are some people who don't care or need the latest features".
The reality is that a lot of these new features that are being locked out could be made to work (and work well) with the older generation hardware if they put the effort in to optimise the software for that specific hardware implementation. The problem is there is no payoff for doing that since most of these phones have already been bought and are no longer generating relevant sales revenue to payoff these software development costs.