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An OS is not outdated unless none of the software and hardware supports it. You can say iOS 1-4 is outdated, but iOS 5 and iOS 6 is hardly outdated.

Well if you really wanted to get technical then no version of iOS is outdated unless it is no longer used by anyone. What I simply meant was that running up-to-date software provides feature and security enhancements and that the older software is left to go stale.
 
One example: Beta versions of iOS 7 are significantly slower on iPhone 4 than iOS 6. If the release version is also slower, than it may be a perfect reason for iPhone 4 users to stay with iOS 6
Sure i've read on various threads and other boards plenty of people using iOS7 on an iPhone 4 with no issues.
 
Exactly. This is just your opinion. I use literally nothing of what you listed, and in fact, on my ML machine, I removed LaunchPad from my dock and put in an Applications grid stack because LaunchPad is atrociously garbage. What was Apple thinking?

I've been using the iOS 7 betas on my spare iPhone, but no new features are awful like Launchpad.

Well I wouldn't have Launchpad on the dock either. Launchpad is most useful when you set it up as a keyboard shortcut or if you have a magic trackpad.
 
I know. I'm in an ongoing discussion about this in the following posts. My point was originally being made against those who will not upgrade simply because they dislike change, not the people who avoid buggy releases or feel their 3 and a half year old iPhone will not run the new OS smoothly. Obviously I don't want to keep repeating that.
Just as there are those who will upgrade no matter what because there's something new and shiny (sometimes without even really knowing or caring about the changes). It's a spectrum as it is when it comes to many things.
 
If people want to stay on an old OS then I have no problem with that, but I really don't understand it at all. If something new comes out and its free, I don't see why anyone would want to stick to something old and out of date. If iOS wan't bringing anything new in the way of features and doing things, it wouldn't be released. I haven't used it myself yet, but have seen the feedback of what it is bringing and I can't agree it is not adding any 'significant features for people'. I think perhaps it is one of those things where people are determined not to like it or give it a go. I say move with the times and see.

Sometimes there's a really important app to you, that isn't updated and won't work with the new OS. That's one reason- something which I have run into before.
 
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So any major problem would force them to restore to iOS 7 ?

Depends on what you call major. Short of something like a disabled passcode lock many issues can be solved by just doing the onboard erase all which doesn't require a reinstall of the iOS and thus no forced update to iOS 7.
 
Depends on what you call major. Short of something like a disabled passcode lock many issues can be solved by just doing the onboard erase all which doesn't require a reinstall of the iOS and thus no forced update to iOS 7.
Thanks for the tip !
 
staying on 6.1.2 jailbroken until iOS 7 gets it

then if battery and performance are alright, I guess i'll upgrade?
 
If iOS 7 isn't adding significant features for people, there's nothing to move on to.

The very computer I'm writing this on is running Snow Leopard, since Lion or Mountain Lion adds no really useful features.

I always recommend to people to wait for .1 or .2 releases of iOS, since the first release is still very buggy, especially on an major overhaul like iOS 7.

I think Apple will be on it this fall. I'm sure they have learned from the past.
 
I think Apple will be on it this fall. I'm sure they have learned from the past.

I guarantee there will be an iOS 7-gate feature or two.

Music app-gate? Battery-gate? Opening/closing window animation-gate? UI-gate?

I dunno.
 
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I guarantee there will be an iOS 7-gate feature or two.

Music app-gate? Battery-gate? Opening/closing window animation-gate? UI-gate?

I dunno.

The only one I can see is battery-gate. But maybe apple has some surprises in store for us.
 
a) who get an update badge on the Settings app, impossible to remove unless they jailbreak ?

You can avoid that if you keep the phone full enough that it doesn't have enough space for the update. Easy for me because I only have a 32 GB phone, but could be harder on a 64 GB one!

b) would not be able to restore from an iOS 6 ipsw file, since that version would not be signed anymore ?

Does anyone know what the story is with iOS versions requiring new versions of iTunes? I think I read somewhere that iOS 7 requires iTunes 11... but I can only run up to 10.7. Presumably iTunes 10.7 won't offer to install iOS 7 on the phone, but wouldn't it still try to do an OTA update?

So any major problem would force them to restore to iOS 7 ?

I believe that "Erase All Content and Settings" will work around most issues (so long as you're not jailbroken).
 
You can avoid that if you keep the phone full enough that it doesn't have enough space for the update. Easy for me because I only have a 32 GB phone, but could be harder on a 64 GB one!



Does anyone know what the story is with iOS versions requiring new versions of iTunes? I think I read somewhere that iOS 7 requires iTunes 11... but I can only run up to 10.7. Presumably iTunes 10.7 won't offer to install iOS 7 on the phone, but wouldn't it still try to do an OTA update?



I believe that "Erase All Content and Settings" will work around most issues (so long as you're not jailbroken).

You won't be able to download iOS 7 through iTunes if you cannot update to the required version.
 
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I have a few questions. Based on iOS history, once iOS 7 is released, those who would want to stay on iOS 6 :

a) who get an update badge on the Settings app, impossible to remove unless they jailbreak ?

b) would not be able to restore from an iOS 6 ipsw file, since that version would not be signed anymore ?
So any major problem would force them to restore to iOS 7 ?

Am I right ?

and exactly why would you want to miss out on Apple's improved Anti-Theft measures put in place with IOS 7's improvements to Find My IPhone?

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I thought new versions of iOS (from 6 to 7) were not pushed OTA and always required you to update through iTunes.

from 6.0.x and/or 6.1.x to 7.0 is OTA. What is NOT OTA is 7.0 Beta x to 7.0 GM.
 
I'm not exactly sure on this one, but since I tried iOS 7 betas, I was required to enter my iTunes password every time I restored the phone, even when I restored iOS 6.

What is odd is that I wasn't required to disable Find my iPhone to do so, as I thought I read somewhere.

Anyway, that's a great new feature for sure, but not enough to postpone upgrading for a few months in my opinion.
 
and exactly why would you want to miss out on Apple's improved Anti-Theft measures put in place with IOS 7's improvements to Find My IPhone?

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from 6.0.x and/or 6.1.x to 7.0 is OTA. What is NOT OTA is 7.0 Beta x to 7.0 GM.

I realised that after I typed it.
 
I'm not exactly sure on this one, but since I tried iOS 7 betas, I was required to enter my iTunes password every time I restored the phone, even when I restored iOS 6.

What is odd is that I wasn't required to disable Find my iPhone to do so, as I thought I read somewhere.

Anyway, that's a great new feature for sure, but not enough to postpone upgrading for a few months in my opinion.

You can also try using an App called Lookout Mobile Security if your NOT too impressed with the Improvements to Find my IPhone.

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and while it is true that I like the Android Version of Lookout Mobile Security better, the IOS version can still both Locate and Scream your IPhone. Just remember to turn off the ability to Delete Apps in Restrictions.
 
It's quicker to use Launchpad.

Actually the quickest is spotlight

[Cmd]-[Space]
Numb
[Enter]

Bam, Numbers pops up.


That being said, I've taught my non-technical friends/family to use Launchpad and they are MUCH happier about using it that way.
 
Actually the quickest is spotlight

[Cmd]-[Space]
Numb
[Enter]

Bam, Numbers pops up.


That being said, I've taught my non-technical friends/family to use Launchpad and they are MUCH happier about using it that way.

F5 (my launchpad key)
Move mouse to icon
Click

I found that quicker. Guess it depends what your use to.
 
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