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iOS 7 font complain

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Dreamer2go

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Hey all,

in Beta 3, the regular Helvetica Neue was used, such as the lock screen's info on the top of the screen. In the home screen, Helvetica Neue Ultra Light was used. Inconsistency here.

Then the Notification center uses the regular font too (or is it just "light")?

That really destroyed the "cleanliness" of the iOS 7 now. Especially the app store uses the regular font too.
The Ultralight wasn't that hard to read to begin with...

I wish we can have an option to use the lighter Helvetica Neue Ultra Light font.
Anyone agrees?
 
I agree. We already have the ability to set dynamic text size, which will affect future apps that implement this text format. It seems silly that this slider doesn't also manipulate the system font.
 
eastamherstbias said:
I actually hate the font. Too slim. I like a bolder font and I like the buttons to be bigger as well.
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Turn on bold text option in settings/general/accessibility, I think it looks best being bolder, but I also think app level settings would be better.
 
WhiteIphone5 said:
It's always going to be like that. Get used to it :D
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I actually didn't complain on the beta 1's font... I thought it matches the simplicity. I just hope there is an option to slim it down... just like there is an option to make it all bold.
 
Honestly, the UI changes in iOS 7 (including the font) are what made me decide to upgrade. Apple usually knows what they're doing, just use it for a while longer and it'll grow on you. I even messed around with some code in ML to change the default font on my Notes app to Helvetica Neue Ultralight :)
 
When it comes to type, typefaces have different weights for a reason. Neue Helvetica for example starts at Ultra light or Ultra Thin I can't remember which is the thinner and then gets bolder right up to Ultra Black.

Having a single weight font on everything will cause more problems than having differing weights. The different weights are used to denote hierarchy. Emboldened type is usually used to highlight more important aspects amongst similar type. However, it is also used when light type at small sizes simply becomes to thin to be legible. So the smaller type gets, the bolder it needs to be to retain legibility, when done well most people cant tell the difference.

This is why you will find, Im guessing (I havent had a real good look at iOS7 yet) that the larger type is Ultra Light and the smaller type is used in varying degrees of heavier weight. It's a fine balance and also kind of a hypocritical in places but it is necessary for the different weights.

I'm working on my own site at the moment and dealing with this as we speak. I have 300 weight for titles and headers and 500 weight for body copy (smaller type) but to the eye everything looks 300 when viewed relatively.
 
Everything should be Ultralight. The font size and bold options are already implemented for those who have trouble seeing it.
 
Dreamer2go said:
Hey all,

in Beta 3, the regular Helvetica Neue was used, such as the lock screen's info on the top of the screen. In the home screen, Helvetica Neue Ultra Light was used. Inconsistency here.

Then the Notification center uses the regular font too (or is it just "light")?

That really destroyed the "cleanliness" of the iOS 7 now. Especially the app store uses the regular font too.
The Ultralight wasn't that hard to read to begin with...

I wish we can have an option to use the lighter Helvetica Neue Ultra Light font.
Anyone agrees?
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:confused:

Helvetica Neue Ultra Light is used very infrequently in iOS7. The system font was originally Helvetica Neue Light and it was switched to Helvetica Neue Regular. Ultra Light is only used in places like the time on the lock screen, the temperature in weather, etc. It's very/I] light, totally illegible at normal sizes.
 
betabeta said:
Turn on bold text option in settings/general/accessibility, I think it looks best being bolder, but I also think app level settings would be better.
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I had to do this on the iPad mini. The text looks ok without it apart from under the icons on the home screen. They just look shocking and pixellated, much worse than iOS 6, without bold enabled.
 
Personally, I hope to see Comic Sans used throughout by the time the GM hits.

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Nikos said:
Everything should be Ultralight. The font size and bold options are already implemented for those who have trouble seeing it.
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This is what I don't understand. Everyone was complaining about the font being too thin. But there are options not only to increase the size of the font but also to increase the font weight. Now they removed the light font altogether and there are no options available to those who preferred it.
 
Bawstun said:
Personally, I hope to see Comic Sans used throughout by the time the GM hits.

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This is what I don't understand. Everyone was complaining about the font being too thin. But there are options not only to increase the size of the font but also to increase the font weight. Now they removed the light font altogether and there are no options available to those who preferred it.
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The font size option only applies to the font in certain places. It is not a system wide setting.
 
They should at least keep the carrier/battery/wifi icon/etc size consistent between the home screen and lock screen.
 
tymaster50 said:
People are gonna complain either way

They're mostly older people too :p
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Yeah, don't you just hate those old people. They just complain, complain, complain.

The reason is that they're not as smart and cool and as aesthetically sophisticated as the younger people.

Actually, I think most of those old people should be killed, or at least made to keep their gummy old mouths' shut.

Just one man's opinion, of course...:p :D

:rolleyes: ;)
 
Shrink said:
Yeah, don't you just hate those old people. They just complain, complain, complain.

The reason is that they're not as smart and cool and as aesthetically sophisticated as the younger people.

Actually, I think most of those old people should be killed, or at least made to keep their gummy old mouths' shut.

Just one man's opinion, of course...:p :D

:rolleyes: ;)
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Glad you said what everyone was thinking ;)
 
Shrink said:
Yeah, don't you just hate those old people. They just complain, complain, complain.

The reason is that they're not as smart and cool and as aesthetically sophisticated as the younger people.

Actually, I think most of those old people should be killed, or at least made to keep their gummy old mouths' shut.

Just one man's opinion, of course...:p :D

:rolleyes: ;)
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I've heard that some cultures used to put their old people out on ice flows after their usefulness had passed. Just sayin' :p
 
Comic Sans FTW.

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