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stating the obvious. millions upon millions of devices in the world run iOS, of course the # of beta users would also be higher.

Is it the obvious? Because according to the media, no one wants an iOS device and Samsung/Android is king.

But facts state otherwise.
 
Apple is doomed as most of those are Phandroids who pretended to buy iP5 and are as if for real beta testing iOS 7 just to prove they did it so they can bash it everywhere. Then once they are done, they had returned their still shiny iphones. The same mob who joined the scuffsgate party. It's a bigger "disaster" than iMaps and scuffsgate. Apple resellers, beware of those buyers with bulging enormous S4 or Notes in their pockets. /s

Dyslexic?

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After trying iOS 7 beta I switched to HTC one..

Hate apple for restrictions on iPhone 4 share feature..

Lovin android with HTC one...

Now iPhone screen looks like Nokia

True jail break for iOS is android

So you are comparing a 3 years old phone with a new one, after testing a beta software.

Do I have your permission to share your post on buzzfeed.com?? ;-)
 
After trying iOS 7 beta I switched to HTC one..

Hate apple for restrictions on iPhone 4 share feature..

Lovin android with HTC one...

Now iPhone screen looks like Nokia

True jail break for iOS is android

So a 3 year old phone and a beta....oooookkkkkk
 
After trying iOS 7 beta I switched to HTC one..

Hate apple for restrictions on iPhone 4 share feature..

Lovin android with HTC one...

Now iPhone screen looks like Nokia

True jail break for iOS is android

It tells me you didn't use iOS7 beta. They revamped the share feature and it is much better than android.

iOS7 is very different from android, win phone and iOS6 !
 
It tells me you didn't use iOS7 beta. They revamped the share feature and it is much better than android.

iOS7 is very different from android, win phone and iOS6 !

He's just a android troll. No one can take someone seriously with an opinion when they are using a beta and 3 year old phone.
 
"that developers are around twice as excited about iOS 7 as they were about iOS 6"

That's the whole point of iOS7, developpers are happy because they can now fake they can do UI easily as you only have to do plain square and text while designers are unhappy because all the stuff they know is basically useless if they want to do "standard" Apple Apps.

Fortunately, they will continue to drive the design as they did on iOS 6 by avoiding crap leather stuff.

I am trying to transate this into english sentences. This is what I think you mean:

"Developers are happy because UI is easy with the simple look." ('fake' as in, "don't need to know design"? I don't understand this.)
"Designers are unhappy because design is impossible with this new look."

I don't know who you think is going to continue to drive design.

So I think I mostly disagree except for the part about the leather.
 
Dyslexic?

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So you are comparing a 3 years old phone with a new one, after testing a beta software.

Do I have your permission to share your post on buzzfeed.com?? ;-)

here is thing I have been using iphone from its first release (iPhone 2G-4). I am bored of iOS & apple restrictions.

& I compared iphone5 & HTC One ... HTC is clear winner in terms of Screen & Features ..

There is more to the story Why I switched so many reasons ..
 
This obviously is a result of the UDID check dismission.

You could actually install the iOS 6 beta the same way last year without a registered UDID. Less people knew about it because less people cared about iOS 6 at the time compared to enthusiasm for iOS 7 now, but I distinctly remember people here on these very forums doing the same thing. iOS 5 on the other hand definitely had no such exploit.
 
It tells me you didn't use iOS7 beta. They revamped the share feature and it is much better than android.

iOS7 is very different from android, win phone and iOS6 !

Nah Nah don't worry Fan Boy .. I didn't just switch because of Beta iOS.. I was feed up of apple control .. I always loved Android Openness But never liked any phone from Samsung. So HTC One is amazing build with Open OS
 
Uh huh.

I personally work with and know even more iOS developers. None of them are interested in iOS 7 at the moment. The sales for any one particular app doesn't justify the cost of overhauling the entire user interface just because Apple says we should.

-SC

LOL at this statement. If you don't upgrade your app, when 90% of the iPhone userbase upgrades their phones, you're going to have an unstable app and get down rated into oblivion. Companies with worthwhile apps definitely are not going to let this happen, as it would damage their brands.
 
no no .. using iphone since 2007 until now ..

No he's saying that your iPhone 4 which you used an unfinished OS on was 3 years old. It is not fair for you to judge iOS 7 and the ability of an iPhone based on a product which is clearly quite old and another product which has a multitude of issues and isn't completed. That would be like me saying Android is crap because a beta of Jellybean ran like crap on my original Droid.
 
No he's saying that your iPhone 4 which you used an unfinished OS on was 3 years old. It is not fair for you to judge iOS 7 and the ability of an iPhone based on a product which is clearly quite old and another product which has a multitude of issues and isn't completed. That would be like me saying Android is crap because a beta of Jellybean ran like crap on my original Droid.

ufff.. here are reasons " I tested iOS 7 on my iPhone 4.. I didn't like Apple hold Airdrop Feature from iPhone 4"

I gifted my Bro iPhone 5 recently .. I didn't like iphone 5 .. nothing special .. just longer screen..

I want to load games in my iphone But guess what I can't because games aren't available in my country store :D..

I have to register US acc but dam i don't CC from USA .. then I have pay around 25$ to get a 3$ game .. wow

In need to tranfers a Photo / File / song to my fone .. dam I have to go to home load it in itunes then sync .. then i will be able to get it .. seriously

Plus many more reasons..
 
ufff.. here are reasons " I tested iOS 7 on my iPhone 4.. I didn't like Apple hold Airdrop Feature from iPhone 4"

I gifted my Bro iPhone 5 recently .. I didn't like iphone 5 .. nothing special .. just longer screen..

I want to load games in my iphone But guess what I can't because games aren't available in my country store :D..

I have to register US acc but dam i don't CC from USA .. then I have pay around 25$ to get a 3$ game .. wow

In need to tranfers a Photo / File / song to my fone .. dam I have to go to home load it in itunes then sync .. then i will be able to get it .. seriously

Plus many more reasons..

Look you do what you want, I don't really care. I was simply trying to clear up a misconception you had between beta testing and the fact English isn't your first language. I will say however if you think iOS syncing is a pain you've seen nothing yet. I used to be an Android guy and then I moved to the iPhone, but do what you want, differences are what makes this world go 'round :D
 
Look you do what you want, I don't really care. I was simply trying to clear up a misconception you had between beta testing and the fact English isn't your first language. I will say however if you think iOS syncing is a pain you've seen nothing yet. I used to be an Android guy and then I moved to the iPhone, but do what you want, differences are what makes this world go 'round :D

I am just having fun with apple fan boys ( i use to be one of them ).. yeap english isn't my first language .. Obviously I will do what ever i like :D..
BTW i agree with you android being crap on crappy phones But trust me HTC One is amazing compare to iphones..

for me
iphone compare to HTC one
is like
nokia to iphone .. hahaha
 
No, you just installed it wrong.

I've installed it the official(?) way, by using the IPSW and restoring my phone. I didn't know there was another way.

Anyway, all I'm saying then is that there is a UDID check somewhere :) And I ran into it.
 
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I like this...

I think Apple is on the right track here, recognizing on the one hand that the iPhone is an amazing 'halo' product while also realizing that they are chasing buyers to other retailers (***cough*** WAL-MART ***cough***) and diluting that so-called halo. As upcoming new iPhone buyers this fall, we like seeing Apple play into OUR hands rather than the other way around. Tough nuggets if their margins slip a bit.

Now, onto this so-called 'low-cost iPhone.' Is it only going to be sold in Botswana and Mozambique or here as well?
 
LOL at this statement. If you don't upgrade your app, when 90% of the iPhone userbase upgrades their phones, you're going to have an unstable app and get down rated into oblivion. Companies with worthwhile apps definitely are not going to let this happen, as it would damage their brands.

LOL back at you.

I don't care if I have to update a few things to make sure the app doesn't completely crash (by the way, what sort of a company takes a wrecking ball to their APIs in such a way that existing apps fail to launch?). I'm under no obligation to rewrite my entire application UI just to mesh in with iOS 7's new "style".

If you think that every developer on the planet should suddenly invest a large amount of time restyling their applications and maintaining two code bases for two completely different user interfaces, just because Apple decided to throw away everything premium about their platform.

-SC
 
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Apple is doomed as most of those are Phandroids who pretended to buy iP5 and are as if for real beta testing iOS 7 just to prove they did it so they can bash it everywhere. Then once they are done, they had returned their still shiny iphones. The same mob who joined the scuffsgate party. It's a bigger "disaster" than iMaps and scuffsgate. Apple resellers, beware of those buyers with bulging enormous S4 or Notes in their pockets. /s

So the real question is: "Do you have an S4 in your pocket or are you happy to see me ?"
 
If you think that every developer on the planet should suddenly invest a large amount of time restyling their applications and maintaining two code bases for two completely different user interfaces, just because Apple decided to throw away everything premium about their platform.

-SC

The fact is that most developers that make money will indeed update their apps. Maybe not everyone will and they don't even have to like doing it, but in order to stay fresh many devs will do it.

This is Apple's game, they can do whatever they want, you got two options come along for the ride or get off the ride. Totally up to you!
 
I'm using it as my daily driver for both of my devices and you certainly don't need your UDID registered to install it.

I regret the decision slightly, because it is a little prone to crashes and the animations are slow, but it seems better on my iPhone than iPad.

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I've installed it the official(?) way, by using the IPSW and restoring my phone. I didn't know there was another way.

Anyway, all I'm saying then is that there is a UDID check somewhere :) And I ran into it.

Yeah, because you restored your phone.
 
Devs Selling Beta Access

The increase is probably also in part because Developers are now charging a small fee (I've seen as low as $8) to add you to their list of "developers". I've got several friends who have been running iOS7 since the day they released the first beta, who are most certainly not developers.

I get that this technically fits within the rules, but you gotta think Apple will not be too happy when they realize that devs are in essence making money off beta releases of iOS.
 
Nah Nah don't worry Fan Boy .. I didn't just switch because of Beta iOS.. I was feed up of apple control .. I always loved Android Openness But never liked any phone from Samsung. So HTC One is amazing build with Open OS

Yes... I love all the happy hippy loving freedom that I experience on my LG Android device. It's so free that they lock the bootloader and never release any Android updates past 4.0.4 (on a 10 month old device).

Seriously, get off your high horse. None of these devices are free/open. They won't be until you can switch Operating Systems at will like a PC or Mac.
 
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