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Seriously?

That's all you take from his previous post - to bully him?

Asking someone a neutral question is bullying?

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ETA: did some fact checking cuz I didn't think it was hardware dependent, and it's not...It's software dependent.

So yes, it's not available on the 4s, but the 4s can still receive files from a 5 through airdrop.

I'll bet they take their normal approach to these kinds of features which is to not enable it unless both devices support it in both directions... but I guess we'll see.

Oh and take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFC-enabled_mobile_devices

Between the Samsung Galaxy, Nexus, Xperia, HTC One, LG Optimus and Motorola Droid brands, you've got NFC support in the vast majority of Android phones sold in the last 18 months.

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Ahhh. Fun. :D How far in are you?
 
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You don't need to be on a WiFi network, but you do need to turn on the WiFi hardware.

Because using wifi hardware to connect to another device ad-hoc is not a wifi network. No sir. It is different and requires wifi direct. :rolleyes: It requires a special chip to do what you can with an iphone wirelessly tethered.

Come on people it is a wifi network. There is one reason it doesn't work with other devices, Apple doesn't want it too. Probably to segment the market.

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Or it could be implemented similarly to the "share" panel that already exists where you initiate it inside of particular apps rather than as a single system wide app.

I hope not. It should insert a tag to a file 'share' to say it available to the rest of the system. Apps that can read it look for both the tag and the format they recognise.
 
I see by looking at Wikipedia that only one device is required to setup the connection. It would seem the claim that it will require iPhone5 was wrong. It will require either Macs or iphone5+ to do it between non-Wifi Direct phones, unless Apple only implements it excluding earlier models.

It is an adhoc network; the reason that Wifi Direct is needed is to sustain high transfer speeds. (Dual band, dual antenna.)
 
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I still don't understand some people's problem with iTunes. My only complain is the lack of multiple windows, but I rarely find myself needing that.

If you want to manage your music, go to the Music section. Movies? Go to the Movies section. Want to sync a song into your iPod? Drag the song into the device. It's a rather simple application.
The reason people don't like iTunes is that it adds an unnecessary layer to perform a function. There maybe benefits to iTunes but your stated reasons aren't included.

Before iTunes, it was rather simple. You started your program and it played your selection. Want to manage it? Go to the Music directory.

You want to sync a file to a device? Drag to the Music/Movie directory. It could have been easier, but iTunes doesn't utilise that capability.

Note that the device could be independent of the program, nor did a program have to only work with one manufacturer's choice of device. That said proprietary precedes both iTunes and Apple, proprietary concepts were used for a good reason; to earn money.
 
Before iTunes, it was rather simple. You started your program and it played your selection. Want to manage it? Go to the Music directory.

You want to sync a file to a device? Drag to the Music/Movie directory. It could have been easier, but iTunes doesn't utilise that capability.

Note that the device could be independent of the program, nor did a program have to only work with one manufacturer's choice of device. That said proprietary precedes both iTunes and Apple, proprietary concepts were used for a good reason; to earn money.

You mean like using Finder with your average MP3 player?
 
Well actually in order for any device like an iPhone to operate at all it needs a file system. In iOS it is just hidden. That is essentially the major difference between iOS and android. If file system access is more important to you than easy, solid performance then you ought to get an android phone or a blackberry. When the iPhone was first released it was not the most feature-some phone. Instead it focused on reinventing the core interface of the mobile phone. The hidden file system is key to iOS.

You're correct in your way but a lot of people who quoted me misunderstand my point. Apple has a file system and it is hidden - this is true; however, I fail to understand why I need an app like Documents or PDF Expert to store my PDF documents and music and picture files. It would be so much easier if there was a single app made by Apple that would have seamless integration with Mail.app, Photos.app, Videos.app, AirDrop on the Mac, iCloud (especially for PDF documents on the Mac as there is no way to access them on an iPad) and much much more.

A lot of users will disagree with the fact that they need a Finder.app on iOS. I would be one of them. I do not need the ability to do compression or batch file naming or advanced searches or even permissions. All I want to do is complete my iPad experience by having seamless integration between the more powerful Mac and the on-the-go, yet made for quick content reading, iPad.
 
A lot of users will disagree with the fact that they need a Finder.app on iOS. I would be one of them. I do not need the ability to do compression or batch file naming or advanced searches or even permissions. All I want to do is complete my iPad experience by having seamless integration between the more powerful Mac and the on-the-go, yet made for quick content reading, iPad.

Bang on, I agree completely with that suggestion.
 
They already have this functionality. Its called s-beam (android beam) Its also much better implemented and uses wifi direct so it doesn't require devices to be on the same wireless network like this will. Using NFC for the pairing makes the setup of the connection extremely simple.

Uh... I take it you've never used AirDrop? You don't need to be connected to a Wifi network at all, and it already uses wifi direct...

Wireless sharing via ad-hoc networks is nothing new. It also works quite well too, for those that do use AirDrop.
 
Late as hell as so many features/apps. (iMessage for Mac, GameCenter for Mac, hell, don't get me started on Reminders...)

In the meantime and for anyone as impatient as me, go try Bump, and go to www.bu.mp
They have Smartphone->PC transfer now too ;)

Unfortunately they had to pull the ability to send music from your media library (must be the lobbying from the labels to get them play along the iRadio idea)...

Glassed Silver:mac
 
bet this will only be selected files .... :p

in much the same way on the Mac, you can only cut certain file types ...

And we all say, theres a app to extent this ?? lol

Maybe if Apple did it right, like a common thing you would expect with Windows, there wouldn't NEED an app.

But hey...... enough of my whinging ..... It is Apple after all :p
 
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As predicted it requires iPhone 5.

Yeah, artificial restrictions will do that. Yay you won.

As other posters said explicitly it is because Apple is being obstinate. I have rsync doing the same thing, and it doesn't care about the underlying hardware.
 
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