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Hopefully they follow suit with the iTunes revamp and unveil an amazing OS just like they did when they unveiled the original iPhone. Maybe they won't be able to do something as amazing... but there's always hope. iOS is getting a little stale, but if Android on a Note 2 (The only Android device I'm considering) was anything like my experience on the Nexus 7 which had dropped frames left and right and led me to once again switch back to Apple just like I did when I gave the S2 a chance... I can hold out.

Not going to upgrade to the iPhone 5 since my 4 still does what it needs to do and the 5 is missing a few key tweaks I need that only a Jailbroken iPhone has. If the 5 ever does get jailbroken and the tweaks get done for the iPhone 5, I'll switch right away, but for now there's really no point for me.
 
It needs major revamp. Jelly Bean kills iOS in terms of UI.

That's very subjective. JB may appear as a better UI for you, but for others out there, people might prefer the simplicity of iOS over Android.
 
Not even close. Heck, we still don't even have ring profiles - something that practically ALL of my previous phones over the past 15 years have had.

I actually really like that it doesn't have ring profiles, I always thought they were dumb.
 
Well their last attempts at polish were rather unsatisfying (colored status bars, music app redesign). I think they definitely need to revamp some of the UI. Settings is cluttered, Safari is cluttered (look at Chrome), the homescreen and notification center are lacking in functionality, and the whole thing is getting stale and looking chunky.
 
Stupid? Can you elaborate, please?

Also, iOS 4 > iOS 5 was pretty significant, by Apple standards. iOS 5 > iOS 6 was, in my opinion, far less so.

Because there is nothing wrong with it, imagine them replacing the app launcher with widgets and adding an extra press to get to the full list of apps, there would be uproar.

It needs to stay the same, but with a little more customisation..
 
I personally am hoping for a revamp. Apple were very clever in holding back key features over the years such as cut and paste, mms and multi-tasking and implementing them in a unique and original way an pitching it as revolutionary. Now they have every feature there is nothing they can reinvent, which only leaves an iOS total revamp imo.

What do you think?

Lol. This reminds me of this famous misquote:

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. patent office, 1899

The whole premise for your thread is out of wack. Users have been arguing for a revamp due to desired features, and you say you want to revamp it for the opposite reason? Market leading tech incumbents don't revamp a UI because people are too used to it; they do so when the outdated OS infrastructure forces them to, or else perish like RIM and Nokia Symbian.
 
Because there is nothing wrong with it, imagine them replacing the app launcher with widgets and adding an extra press to get to the full list of apps, there would be uproar.

It needs to stay the same, but with a little more customisation..

All of this is subjective and speculative. I can imagine them doing whatever they think is best and totally ignoring the likelihood of what they do causing uproar.
 
I'm new to iOS and they really need to redesign the Music app more in terms with the new iTunes.. Remove the coverflow And add cover-tiles browsing like in iTunes 11->Albums.
The "playing now" section of the app is great though.
 
When it came time that she thought she wanted a smart phone (she has Verizon) they talked her out of an iPhone and gave her a Droid.

You'll pretty much never see those phone salespeople push anything other than an Android phone.

I don't listen to anything they have to say when it comes to their opinions of the devices themselves.
 
Once again I'm reading a lot of people asking for revamps or telling me that W8 or Androids blows iOS out of the water without really substantiating their opinion. Not saying you have to but revamps and feelings on OS interface is highly subjective.

Things that make sense to me.

Quick Replies from SMS/iMessage texts - makes sense when you need to just quickly respond.

Toggles - Makes no sense unless you've lived with phones that don't last 5 hrs with Bluetooth and Wifi running. Sorry this is an Android ailment far more than iOS.

Widgets - other than the couple that form the ticker at the top of Notification Center I doubt you see widgets become prominent. I think we'll get more choice about what to put up there beyond stocks or weather but we'll see.

Notification Center- I don't think it's going to evolve that much. There's a point where it simply needs to give me notifications and not try to do too much. I would like a "erase all" button and a feature that allows me to funnel notifications for a single device so I don't get 4 notifications all chiming at once.

Less Context switches - I think we're going to see less and less context switches. Rather than the somewhat dizzying window swaps that we have now there will be far more things that present data in a panel much like an email panel or text message panel. This will keep people in their app yet allow them to purchase, communicate or be informed without the context switch.

Safe and secure sharing - Apple's been working on a modern and secure way of running processes and sharing this across apps. This can lead to some interesting inter-app communication but it has to be done right.

Live icons - I think this one could be coming because the icon in Software Update is animated. Apple probably won't just animate the icons they'll find a way to let color represent certain things so that visually some apps will provide more information based on the color of the icon rather than just a number that changes.

I'm sure there will be some eye candy and more unification of the "design language" thanks to Ive and other but in the end I don't think iOS is lacking as much as some think. Even iOS 6 delivered some nice new stuff to work with that will yield improved apps and that's what is really important to me.
 
iOS7 "this changes everything..... again" :D

Only thing I really want is some type of app drawer (I like simplicity) and toggles in notification center. I'm not a big fan of widgets and don't even use them on my s3.
 
Apple needs to update all its UI's for the default apps for iPhone and iPad.

Then they need to fix Notification Center and Multitasking.

Looking at what Jellybean 4.2 can do makes iOS (especially iOS 6) look like a pile of dirt.
 
Can you guys imagine if Tim Cook says that "iOS 7 is the most advanced mobile operating system on the planet"? Unless there's an astronomical leap in terms of features for iOS 7 (Unlikely), I really can't see iOS being "the most advanced mobile operating system" in 2013.

I will really face-palm. No joke.
 
I think Apple has realized that currently many people switch from iOS to Android - not because of the hardware, the iPhone 5 is great, but because of iOS.

Android isn't prefect but it's developing. iOS? Not so much. I think they also need to revamp their software release cycle. Adding new features only once per year is imho too slow in this market.

I hope they'll include better keyboards or allow third party keyboards like on Android (although that probably won't happen ;-( ). There are so many reallly great keyboards available for Android .

One other thing: Currently most app developers complain about the new App Store in iOS 6 and iTunes 11 which always shows free apps first and makes it harder to sell apps. Android is growing much faster than iOS, although the sales on Android are not as high as on iOS many developers are currently switching or expanding to Android. This means one of the key arguments for iOS (better apps) will slowly vanish if Apple continues this path. Only big developers will be able to make money out of the iOS App Store.

So I think the management shakeup has shown, that Apple sees that it's threatened by Android and others. They will and have to do a major revamp with iOS 7.
 
I would like to see a revamp...but if you think about it, Apple is a business and money just keeps coming in. The majority of the buyers don't care and they just keep buying the new phones in drones regardless of the OS updates.

It'd be interesting to see what Apple does in 2015 with iOS and the iPhone.
 
I respectfully disagree. Everything can be reinvented. In fact, I'd argue that this is precisely Apple's forté. If you really think it's all there right now, I'm happy to predict that you will be pleasantly surprised come iOS 7.

Personally, I believe iOS 7 will bring not only a revamp (though I wouldn't go so far as to call it "total") but also existing features reinvented and one or more brand new feature(s) that we haven't seen yet, at least in the mainstream.

I'm clearly being optimistic and perhaps naïvely so but since I can't say "for sure" what the future will bring, I'll just sit here happily hoping for it all.

(By the way, I can think of many practical situations where it could be good to not set expectations too high...but this is just a cell phone and as long as they don't butcher the OS, I won't cry if I don't get everything I'm hoping for.)



Stupid? Can you elaborate, please?

Also, iOS 4 > iOS 5 was pretty significant, by Apple standards. iOS 5 > iOS 6 was, in my opinion, far less so.

Well, I personally think Apple's ideas have been a bit stale of late. I have been underwhelmed by the last couple of iOS. I would say reinventing used to be Apples thing, but they have been slacking of late, do you not agree?
 
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