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iOS 7: What To Expect (merged)

Claefer said:
Ive is in charge of industrial design. He now has a role in human interface but I think Greg Christie is still the VP of human interface unless he was shown the door along with Forstall.
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Ive is VP of Industrial Design and now also Human Interfaces while Federighi is now VP of software (both Mac OS X which he did previously but now also has iOS after Forstall's departure)

Basically they both took part of Forstall's role.

Pretty sure Federighi will be the one demoing everything in events don't see Ive doing it.
 
irDigital0l said:
Ive is VP of Industrial Design and now also Human Interfaces while Federighi is now VP of software (both Mac OS X which he did previously but now also has iOS after Forstall's departure)

Basically they both took part of Forstall's role.

Pretty sure Federighi will be the one demoing everything in events don't see Ive doing it.
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Wall Street Journal reported that Greg Christie is still the vice president of Human Interface Design and that he now reports to Hair Force One. I doubt they'd let Christie go since he's been around as far back as the Newton days.

I suspect Ive's role is to coauthor the new human interface guidelines and offer his design sense to the various human interface groups.
 
So if Greg Christie reports to Federighi I wonder then if he has some sort of dotted line reporting to Ive? I'm wondering how much influence Ive will actually have. I do see that Christie and Ive are listed on a patent together so they must have worked with each other in the past. Anyone familiar with the other guys listed on this patent and if they're still with Apple?

Mode-based graphical user interfaces for touch sensitive input devices
Abstract
A user interface method is disclosed. The method includes detecting a touch and then determining a user interface mode when a touch is detected. The method further includes activating one or more GUI elements based on the user interface mode and in response to the detected touch.

Inventors: Hotelling; Steve (San Jose, CA), Huppi; Brian Q. (San Francisco, CA), Strickon; Joshua A. (San Jose, CA), Kerr; Duncan Robert (San Francisco, CA), Ording; Bas (San Francsico, CA), Chaudhri; Imran (San Francisco, CA), Christie; Greg (San Jose, CA), Ive; Jonathan P. (San Francisco, CA)
Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino, CA)
Appl. No.: 11/038,590
Filed: January 18, 2005
 
I think now that the 3GS is dead and the 4 is about to get pushed out that we may see a GUI shakeup.
 
Rogifan said:
So if Greg Christie reports to Federighi I wonder then if he has some sort of dotted line reporting to Ive? I'm wondering how much influence Ive will actually have. I do see that Christie and Ive are listed on a patent together so they must have worked with each other in the past. Anyone familiar with the other guys listed on this patent and if they're still with Apple?

Mode-based graphical user interfaces for touch sensitive input devices
Abstract
A user interface method is disclosed. The method includes detecting a touch and then determining a user interface mode when a touch is detected. The method further includes activating one or more GUI elements based on the user interface mode and in response to the detected touch.

Inventors: Hotelling; Steve (San Jose, CA), Huppi; Brian Q. (San Francisco, CA), Strickon; Joshua A. (San Jose, CA), Kerr; Duncan Robert (San Francisco, CA), Ording; Bas (San Francsico, CA), Chaudhri; Imran (San Francisco, CA), Christie; Greg (San Jose, CA), Ive; Jonathan P. (San Francisco, CA)
Assignee: Apple Inc. (Cupertino, CA)
Appl. No.: 11/038,590
Filed: January 18, 2005
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From what I read Christie and his team are responsible for iOS's visual design, from colors to textures, and that he and Forstall would review all UI designs with Steve Jobs. I'm guessing—and hoping—that Jony Ive is now filling Steve's shoes in this respect so Christie and Federighi will be reporting to him from now on.

I'm pretty sure Bas Ording is still with Apple. He's the one who came up Dock magnification as well as inertia scrolling.
 
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Claefer said:
From what I read, Christie and Forstall would hold UI design reviews with Steve Jobs and that Christie's group is in charge of iOS's visual design. Jony Ive said in an interview that he isn't really connected to UI design all that much. But he is now, so I assume he'll review UI designs with Christie and Federighi.

I'm pretty sure Bas Ording is still with Apple. He's the one who came up Dock magnification as well as inertia scrolling.
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Did a bit more patent searching and it looks like Ive worked with Bas Ording (among others) on the proximity sensor in the iPhone.

Also I've heard that Ive was involved in the first iPhone UI. And the Samsung trial did uncover this email from Jobs to Ive and Bas Ording re: iPhone interface. I believe this was in response to a B&O/Samsung phone that was released at the time.

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So maybe Ive does have some UI experience? At least I hope Cook didn't put him in charge of HI just to make things look pretty. The issues with iOS go beyond skeuomorphism.
 
Rogifan said:
Did a bit more patent searching and it looks like Ive worked with Bas Ording (among others) on the proximity sensor in the iPhone.

Also I've heard that Ive was involved in the first iPhone UI. And the Samsung trial did uncover this email from Jobs to Ive and Bas Ording re: iPhone interface. I believe this was in response to a B&O/Samsung phone that was released at the time.

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So maybe Ive does have some UI experience? At least I hope Cook didn't put him in charge of HI just to make things look pretty. The issues with iOS go beyond skeuomorphism.
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Laughed my ass off at that email. That's not innovation. It's changing someone's idea and making it better. Apple is very good at making it seem like they were the first to invent it though.
 
Squilly said:
Laughed my ass off at that email. That's not innovation. It's changing someone's idea and making it better. Apple is very good at making it seem like they were the first to invent it though.
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Well, actually, that is the definition of innovation.
 
Rogifan said:
Did a bit more patent searching and it looks like Ive worked with Bas Ording (among others) on the proximity sensor in the iPhone.

Also I've heard that Ive was involved in the first iPhone UI. And the Samsung trial did uncover this email from Jobs to Ive and Bas Ording re: iPhone interface. I believe this was in response to a B&O/Samsung phone that was released at the time.

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So maybe Ive does have some UI experience? At least I hope Cook didn't put him in charge of HI just to make things look pretty. The issues with iOS go beyond skeuomorphism.
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I'm certain Ive has some UI experience as he's listed as one of the creators of iBooks UI, which is of course skeuomorphic.

Personally, I'm not expecting big changes to the UI. As you pointed out iOS has far bigger problems than Corinthian leather and wooden bookshelves.
 
Feed Me said:
As far as iOS 6 goes, it was pretty much a non-update from iOS 5. I can't even think of one thing that actually changed between iOS 5 and 6...

oh wait, Maps.
oh and they ruined the status bar with that weird flat blue thing.
...
yup, that's about it.
oh
Passbook? I still don't know what that app is even for.


From iOS 4 to 5, however, we saw much larger changes:
- iCloud (iMessage, Mail, backups, reminders, notes, documents in the cloud, photo stream, etc etc etc)
- Notifications revamp

We also see similar big improvements from iOS 3 to 4:
- MULTITASKIN'
- WALLPAPERin'
- AirPlay, AirPrint
- Find my iPhone

I really hope that iOS 7 will see a return to the more feature-rich and I daresay actually *useful* iOS upgrade pattern we're used to. I think we stand a good chance of this.
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I agree. Ios 6 could easily have just been ios 5.2
 
all Apple needs to do is implement features that you get with jailbreaking and thats about it. Oh and fix the damn app store layout.
 
Claefer said:
I'm certain Ive has some UI experience as he's listed as one of the creators of iBooks UI, which is of course skeuomorphic.

Personally, I'm not expecting big changes to the UI. As you pointed out iOS has far bigger problems than Corinthian leather and wooden bookshelves.
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Wow, I didn't know he was involved with iBooks. Where did you hear that? If he was I hope it was under protest (since we know Jobs was a fan of this crap) and not something he really likes. :eek:

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Squilly said:
Laughed my ass off at that email. That's not innovation. It's changing someone's idea and making it better. Apple is very good at making it seem like they were the first to invent it though.
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Does the average consumer really care who invented what? Fact is Apple was first to sell a capacitive multi-touch phone that even Eric Schmidt admitted created the modern smartphone industry. When someone buys an iPhone I don't think they give a rip who invented the technology in the phone.
 
Rogifan said:
Wow, I didn't know he was involved with iBooks. Where did you hear that? If he was I hope it was under protest (since we know Jobs was a fan of this crap) and not something he really likes. :eek:
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http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...iles-45-ipad-ui-design-patents-in-europe.html

Not sure what Ive's role was but he's listed. Mike Matas worked on a couple of iOS interfaces. It's unfortunate that he left the company, though. http://www.mikematas.com

And skeuomorphism isn't inherently bad. iBook has a great interface. But an application like Contacts annoys me—at least it does in portrait mode.
 
Rogifan said:
Wow, I didn't know he was involved with iBooks. Where did you hear that? If he was I hope it was under protest (since we know Jobs was a fan of this crap) and not something he really likes. :eek:
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iBooks is actually one of the functional skeumorphic designs. It serves a purpose and makes it more functional, rather than less. iBooks is beautiful. Game Center, on the other hand, needs a new look.
 
Claefer said:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...iles-45-ipad-ui-design-patents-in-europe.html

Not sure what Ive's role was but he's listed. Mike Matas worked on a couple of iOS interfaces. It's unfortunate that he left the company, though. http://www.mikematas.com

And skeuomorphism isn't inherently bad. iBook has a great interface. But an application like Contacts annoys me—at least it does in portrait mode.
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Faux anything is not my favorite. But yeah iBooks is not as bad as Game Center, Find my Friends, iPhoto app, etc.
 
Okay guys, let me clarify. I'm fine with ads on my phone that DON'T cause my phone to open a new window. On a semi-related note, I'd like ALL ads to be unobtrusive. The can get in my face, as long as there are not too many such ads and I can make them disappear with an easily accessible "Close" button.
 
I use this Weblocker app that works extremely well, granted its 2 dollars but it takes out ads in just about every single app, and it takes out ads in Safari as well.

If you want to look up the app you dont type Weblocker, you type Adblocker then you scroll to the right a few apps in the App Store them you will see it...i highly recommend the app
 
2 items I think are 100% necessary in iOS 7

1. iMessage/FaceTime blocking. If your going to run these services apple you have to offer a blocking option. Now I can block people on AT&Ts side but unless I turn off iMessage all together they still get through. Same with FaceTime.

2. Text forwarding. iMessage syncing across all devices is great but not everyone has an iPhone they should build it into the phone to send texts to your iPad and computer just to keep everything in sync. Like a pseudo iMessage between devices but replies typed on an iPad would have to be sent through the phone wirelessly obviously.
 
I was ready to respond to some crappy proposals but I agree with both of those.

My younger sister has an iPod and uses it to iMessage her friends but randomly started getting iMessages from an unknown email last week. I checked the messages and told her never to reply to or acknowledge them but was surprised how much a blocking feature could solve this altogether.

And I agree with the texting too. Sometimes I'm talking to people on iMessage on my Macbook and get a text from a non-iPhone user. It'd be much more convenient to reply on the Mac rather than have different convos going on 2 devices. Not sure how technologically possible this is.

In addition to that, iMessage should refresh and pull in messages from the phone onto the Macbook. Often it just doesn't seem to sync and I'm continuing from the part of the convo I left off of on the Mac rather than the one I continued on my iPhone.
 
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