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iPhone iOS 7 works with aftermarket head unit :)

iphonehype

iphonehype

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Dear All,

Good news!!

iOS 7 installed on my iPhone 5 works fine with my after market head unit. iTunes Match also works flawlessly unlike iOS 6!

Have a Pioneer AVH-P4200DVD head unit!

Hope this helps people out there!
 
In what way do you mean it works? You mean the normal integration iPods and iPhones have had for years? Siri integration? The MirrorLink/AppRadio like connection? Your statement is vague.
 
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Crzyrio said:
Pictures Please :D

To me this was the most exciting feature
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I don't think it has anything to do with the new "iOS integration" feature which is similar to what AppRadio provides. Neither model listed in this thread supports anything like it.

From what I can tell:
- Existing car integration is still what it is. Genius mixes are listed as playlists to cars with 'iPod integration'.
- The new 'iOS integration' is a competitor to both what Pioneer uses for AppRadio and MirrorLink. My head unit (Sony XAV-701HD) supports MirrorLink, but can't talk to iOS 7... so I believe that this feature relies on proprietary protocols, meaning if you want that level of integration, nothing out there today will support this new stuff.
 
Krevnik said:
I don't think it has anything to do with the new "iOS integration" feature which is similar to what AppRadio provides. Neither model listed in this thread supports anything like it.

From what I can tell:
- Existing car integration is still what it is. Genius mixes are listed as playlists to cars with 'iPod integration'.
- The new 'iOS integration' is a competitor to both what Pioneer uses for AppRadio and MirrorLink. My head unit (Sony XAV-701HD) supports MirrorLink, but can't talk to iOS 7... so I believe that this feature relies on proprietary protocols, meaning if you want that level of integration, nothing out there today will support this new stuff.
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I was thinking something like that too. But could it be possible that Apple simply pushes its own interface to the system? So if the system does support something like Mirroring, the iPhone pushes this 'car interface' instead of just a mirror?
 
Crzyrio said:
I was thinking something like that too. But could it be possible that Apple simply pushes its own interface to the system? So if the system does support something like Mirroring, the iPhone pushes this 'car interface' instead of just a mirror?
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Pretty much. AppRadio works by having the device send a "display" over Video Out (which can be different than the device's display), and it sends touch events back over USB.

MirrorLink is a bit nicer as it does both the video and touch events over USB. But right now the only non-Symbian devices that support it are the Galaxy S3 and S4. It can be a mirrored display, but it doesn't have to.

Apple seems to be doing something similar to MirrorLink, but not MirrorLink. So it handles video and touch over USB, but it isn't using the same protocol as MirrorLink does. Which is a shame, as MirrorLink would mean that existing head units like mine would already be out there and ready to go.
 
Krevnik said:
Pretty much. AppRadio works by having the device send a "display" over Video Out (which can be different than the device's display), and it sends touch events back over USB.

MirrorLink is a bit nicer as it does both the video and touch events over USB. But right now the only non-Symbian devices that support it are the Galaxy S3 and S4. It can be a mirrored display, but it doesn't have to.

Apple seems to be doing something similar to MirrorLink, but not MirrorLink. So it handles video and touch over USB, but it isn't using the same protocol as MirrorLink does. Which is a shame, as MirrorLink would mean that existing head units like mine would already be out there and ready to go.
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Sucks, I dont wanna wait till next year to see this happen. I personally think this concept is quiet neat. I am surprised they did not spend more time with it.

I guess what the above posters were referring to was the steering wheel controls working with the iphone?
 
Wonder when we will see an Apple head unit for cars...I am sure they could figure out a way to modify AirPlay to allow the head unit to display what is on the iPhone as well as send feedback to the phone from the head unit. I have been waiting for a good iPhone head unit with a big touch screen for a while now, but haven't found anything I am 100% happy with.
 
Crzyrio said:
Sucks, I dont wanna wait till next year to see this happen. I personally think this concept is quiet neat. I am surprised they did not spend more time with it.

I guess what the above posters were referring to was the steering wheel controls working with the iphone?
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Which isn't terribly new either. 'iPod Out' was announced in 2005, prior to the iPhone. The iPhone added Bluetooth A2DP and AVRCP support, but those have been around for years now too.

The good news here is that iOS 7 doesn't break existing car integration options. It doesn't seem to add anything new for existing head units either.
 
This was also the most exciting feature from iOS 7. Car integration. Now it's up to Pioneer/Alpine, etc to make a nice double din that works with it. I have the Pioneer AppRadio 2 installed and love it/hate it. I don't use the AppRadio App since all it does is use the Video Out feature on my iPhone. So if I launch iHeartRadio Car App and click on App icon it loads fine.

I've been waiting for a Headunit that basically takes over your iPhone and allows you to use it via the Headunit. I think MirrorLink and whatever Apple has done will do this. I think Apple will do it better once they have aftermarket support. Whether that support is factory integration as Apple suggested or true aftermarket support directly from Alpine, etc I just want my iPhone functionality on my car's display. Phone, Music/Video, Maps, Siri, etc.
 
WesCole said:
Wonder when we will see an Apple head unit for cars...I am sure they could figure out a way to modify AirPlay to allow the head unit to display what is on the iPhone as well as send feedback to the phone from the head unit. I have been waiting for a good iPhone head unit with a big touch screen for a while now, but haven't found anything I am 100% happy with.
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was wondering the exact same thing. I don't care so much what's COMING in new vehicles... I care about what I can retrofit into my OLD car(s)
 
Yeah it does i was worried when I updated I thought I had to pull my Ipod classic out. But the Itunes match works like a charm. I am using an
Avic-z140bh
 
Krevnik said:
In what way do you mean it works? You mean the normal integration iPods and iPhones have had for years? Siri integration? The MirrorLink/AppRadio like connection? Your statement is vague.
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Im talking iPod Music App integration from the iPhone. Previously with iOS 6, some users out there have major issues with this. With ios 6 release some headunits where simply not working with it.
 
It will take some time to get used to. I am also coming to the realization that we are moving away from the Jobs/Forstall era. It kind of sucks.

That said, most of my android friends seem to like the new iOS. One even said he was going to get an iPhone in July for his next upgrade because he liked the look of iOS 7 so much. Me, well, I am still adjusting..
 
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