Can't you just put the iphone in DFU mode and then restore or does it still require a username and a password?
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iOS 7's Activation Lock Feature Helping Reduce iPhone Theft in Three Major Cities
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I don't understand this negative to the password to shutdown. You would still be able to force a reboot on the device, just not shut it down completely. I've never seen a situation where the forced reboot (home + power long hold) would not work, but holding the power button in (which requires the OS to respond with the power off slider) would.
Of course, a thief could keep force restarting it
How about when the phone is restarted with sim it will play a loud noise AND can't be turned off without a passcode if the owner logs in and tags phone as stolen. Or if sim is removed it will play a loud noise that also won't stop until a password is entered. And it will have contact info and/or message to leave with police for return to proper owner. I know this would need a lot of refinement but more needs to be done since people are scum and will steal from others.
That's a situation you'd have to work out for yourself. If such a scenario as proposed was to be enacted and you knowingly carry someone else's phone on to a plane without having the password, that's on you.
Ridiculous claim. Yeah it affects second hand market of stolen iPhones. But, original owners can sell their devices to whoever you just need to remove your id from the phone before giving it to the buyer. Yeah it affects te second hand market quantity of stolen phones so in reality IS better for the environment because now the orig owner doesn't have to buy a second iphone to cover his/her stolen one.
Sure you can still do that, it's just when it boots up it will still want the apple id/password in order to activate and actually use the device.
Only for now because it's still a relatively new feature. It's not like it takes a bunch of work on the seller's part to deactivate Find My iPhone. Flip the "Find My iPhone" toggle to off, enter your Apple password, and proceed to erase the phone as one normally would.
I get a kick out of seeing all the "Activation Locked" iPhone listings on eBay. I'm sure a very small handful of those phones are locked because the original owner forgot to turn Find My iPhone off and the buyer is now trying to re-sell the device to get some money back. The rest of the activation locked phones are almost certainly stolen.
Turn on Restrictions. You will not be able to turn off find my iPhone if Restriction is set.
No, you didn't even read the link.
Look again. The problem with this method is that cellular still doesn't work.
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This is completely and utterly false.
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You can't turn off Find My iPhone even without restrictions. You still need the Apple ID password.
Or it isn't. Until they can track down a ton of former thieves and have them say they stopped cause of Activation lock, they don't know said feature is the issue. It could be correlation, not causality. Perhaps there are fewer thefts simply cause folks are keeping phone in pocket so no one can snatch it etc
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No it isn't. You should be wiping your data and turning off lock if you are going to sell phone yourself.
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That only blocks it being used as a phone. Activation lock blocks everything. Device literally never gets to home screen
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The lock is in the activation server. DFU doesn't remove it.
I'm not sure if you meant to reply to what I posted or not; but I'm not following what you're saying as it relates to my post.
Are you all on drugs??
Hint: SIM card.
Thank you for stating what some people clearly can't wrap their minds around.
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That article was a load of rubbish. If the phones are not stolen then the user can remove the iCloud lock before trading it in. It's up to the receiving party to make sure this is done and if it's not they should either return the handset or pay out much much less for it.
Reading further through the posts it looks like this point has been made repeatedly. Sorry for duplication.
Even an iCloud locked and bad ESN phone in good working condition is still worth a few hundred bucks as people will swap good motherboards in them to fix physically broken ones.
Using a password to turn the phone off or hard reset is completely different. Holding home and power button could still be used to restart the phone without a password required, just could need a password to be able to continue holding to power it off or slide to turn off.
You actually can get that now on a jailbroken phone with app called "iGotYa". It takes a picture of the person using front camera and then emails it to the email address you want when a wrong passcode is entered. It also does the same when someone tries to turn off the phone by holding the power button as well as has a feature that prevents a person from turning off your phone.
http://igotya.com
This whole post seems to make the assumption that if an argument is based on a fallacy that it is not true, which is actually a fallacy in and of itself (I believe it is just "argument from fallacy").
But I'll bite.
I agree, without seeing the real data behind it it is hard to assert this as absolute fact. However, given that the iPhone theft numbers have reduced but (presumably) other smartphone theft numbers are relatively unchanged, there is actually cause to correlate here. Then again, if the number of iPhone thefts were reduced from 12 to 10 it would be subject to small sample size bias, which is a whole different subject. But again, we don't have much data to go off of here. I would imagine that they would have someone available to compile and analyse crime data with a background in statistics who would know better, but I don't know for certain.
Assuming the whole reason to steal a phone is to use it themselves. I doubt there are many of them are saying "oh bollocks, I have this one already" and then dropping it off at a recycling centre. They use them temporarily and ditch it (e.g., drug dealthis was more common when more people had "dumbphones" which were often left without a passcode) or they try to make money from it somehow. Market saturation wouldn't be a huge factor here and in fact may even work in their favour as more people are used to having nice phones and potential buyers may make impulsive decisions if their current phone was broken, stolen, or even just a sufficiently older model (thief makes off with a quick and easy £50; a happy customer gets a £500 phone for next to nothing).
In other words, it isn't entirely unreasonable to assume that there may be a correlation to begin with and this would give supporting evidence.
Funny thing here is you make a claim that unless they do something which is ridiculous to assume they should do, the data here is rubbish. This smells of a different fallacy...
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That is actually not true. You can turn off the phone by letting go of the home button and sleep wake button right when the screen turns black.
The phone will remain off.
Reasoning Error
How do they know it's not just a correlation (after this feature, thefts went down for other reasons or it's just a coincidence)?
How do they know it's not just a correlation (after this feature, thefts went down for other reasons or it's just a coincidence)?
Ok, I found it in Israel, by the dead sea on the rock at a scenic lookout. I'm in Europe now and the phone seems to be from the states since as it has T-mobile USA sim in it. The phone has no service. T-mobile is saying sim card has been deactivated and thus they no longer have any customer information regarding that sim. Handing it over to police seems to be the equivalent of placing it in a garbage bin when it comes to a chance of the owner getting his phone back.
It checks out. I never knew that.
I suppose they could modify the phone to not do that or something (assuming it doesn't have another purpose) but that's really another subject entirely.
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It's unlikely to be biased to just iPhone theft. Though, without seeing the data behind each claim it's hard to say whether that's the case or not.
It's called hitting "Lost Mode" not "You Need a Password Every Time You Want To Turn Off The Phone Mode". There's a difference.
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Done and done.
My request is for a lost phone to have Find My iPhone require a password in order to turn OFF the device. This way if someone has their phone stolen, the owner can relay its lost, and the thief will not be able to turn off the device & thus the location of it will stay in communication with the owner. The thief can't even pop out the battery. This is pure genius stuff guys, granted the owner will have to hit "Lost Mode" before the thief turns off the phone, it's still useful as the 15 minute window between a thief finding a lost phone and the owner pressing "lost" likely determines the outcome and being able to find the location of a phone without it being turned off will be vital to saving a lot more phones and deter thieves.