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iOS 8.2 May Be Released in March, Ahead of April Apple Watch Launch

tliede20 said:
:apple: watch will release in April. MY guess is that they will do an event in March for the big unveil announcement; during this they will say 8.2 is available TODAY along with announcing the pre-order date for watch.

Anyone else agree?
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Took the words right out of my mouth
 
nutmac said:
I really want to buy it, but I am getting first generation jitter. 2nd gen will almost undoubtably have longer battery life and may be few new features (e.g., GPS).
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Apple, as always, already know what they're putting in the next model because it's been kept out of the current generation.

Much like everyone knew why Touch ID wasn't in the iPad Air. Yes they needed supplies for the 5s but everyone knew they were holding it back for the Air 2.
 
Technodynamic said:
Apple products maintain their value so well. Buy it and sell it when Gen 2 comes.
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I feel like Apple products aren't holding their resale value as high these days. Still higher than say Windows or Android devices but I sold my iPhone 4S for way higher than I sold my 5 and 5S.
 
jclardy said:
That would be nice, but mechanical watches just work by storing energy in a spring...which would likely power a smartwatch for maybe a second, if that.

Maybe 10-20 years in the future, but we are far from that today. Think about those hand crank emergency LED lights, you have to put in a lot more energy than moving your wrist around, and it puts out way less energy than a small computer would require.
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20 years in the future our wearable devices will draw power from our body heat... Our metabolisms will speed up to compensate. You'd like people would get skinnier, but actually the obesity issue will get worse as cheap, high calorie foods become more pervasive world-wide (I'm from the future.)

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nutmac said:
I really want to buy it, but I am getting first generation jitter. 2nd gen will almost undoubtably have longer battery life and may be few new features (e.g., GPS).
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Functionally, GPS is in the first version: the watch uses the GPS in the phone you'll need to carry with you anyway.

GPS won't be added to the Apple Watch until it can stand fully on its own without an iPhone in Bluetooth range. That will be years, if ever.
 
MrXiro said:
I feel like Apple products aren't holding their resale value as high these days. Still higher than say Windows or Android devices but I sold my iPhone 4S for way higher than I sold my 5 and 5S.
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iDevice prices are dropping faster now, probably because there are so damn many of them out there. I'd guess you'd be able to sell a $350 apple watch for around $250 or so, unless they sell out immediately. At that point it's anything goes, just like launch day iPhones.
 
BillyTrimble said:
Number 1. This thread has nothing to do with Apple TV, so why discuss it? Also, there is no one here who can answer your question.

Number 2. Yes, let's forget the watch because it should have happened years ago. I mean, after all, years ago it should have appeared before it was even thought of. Very good thinking

Number 3. Yes, let's get your connection issue fixed and put the watch on hold for millions of people until you are a happy camper.

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Hi. I'm an Apple exec and we will prove you wrong. Wait, on the other hand, just in case we can't, you should switch to the Android platform today. We'll even buy back your iPhone now for a full refund if you switch.
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Why are you so worried about someone making a opinion about problems that need to be taken care of when this thread has to do with the iOS also which is connected with the iPhone and Apple TV not just Apple watch, you seem angry about someone else having opinions that interconnect with each other please get some help.
 
MrXiro said:
I feel like Apple products aren't holding their resale value as high these days.
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You're quite correct.

To be fair, Apple is now in the high volume consumer electronics business, an area of retail not known for resale values like Apple used to command.

But that's not bad, it's just another step in Apple's transition to less if any exclusivity and profits based on volume as well as premium prices and shorter obsolescence timelines.
 
mattwolfmatt said:
What about HomeKit? When I ask Siri to turn off my lights, she says "Hmm, I don't see anything connected. But if you set something up, I think I'd enjoy the company."

So...how do I set something up?
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You are absolutely right. A couple of things were shown on CES, and some of that stuff will be ready for market before the release of Watch.

There is also hints in iOS 8.2 settings, where there is one for showing the apps that has been allowed access to HK devices.
 
verniesgarden said:
the closer it gets, the less excited I am.
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Pretty much truth.

I watched the keynote and was 7/10 on the excitement scale. Pricing dropped it to 4/10. Now, I'm about 3/10 on the excitement scale. Least exciting iOS device there is (soon to be) at this time IMO.
 
8.2

It is not clear why Apple might choose to launch the update ahead of the Apple Watch, as it is heavily focused on the device aside from some bug fixes and other minor improvements to the iOS 8 software.
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How sure are you of this? I thought 8.2 contained all the indoor location stuff including
- geolocation gives floors
- use of iBeacons for location (among other things)
- maps provide indoor location info (initially for large common buildings like malls and stadiums)
 
Not a huge surprise, and has to do with the differences between the way hardware and software is developed.

Lets say they are shooting for April 15th for the hardware (the watches). That means they have to have them produced and flown into big warehouses in the States prior to that - probably about a week. If they find a last-minute problem with these, they'd better hope it is too small for consumers to notice, because they aren't going to throw them away and make more. Or, even worse, make field modifications to all of them. How would they do that? Hire an army of engineering grads, give them all soldering irons, and start opening boxes in a warehouse? The answer is they can't.

Software, especially these days when everything is electronic delivery with no physical media, is a completely different story. If QA finds a big problem with the software at the last minute, it can be delayed two days for a fix along with regression testing. Yeah, everyone still panics, but there is a solution. Even in the old days when we pressed software CDs, they would be produced a week ahead, and could be scrapped and re-pressed in an emergency.

So, what I'm saying is that software can be changed all the way up to the last hour. Hardware can't. Because of this, releasing them both at the same time when you don't have to doesn't make sense. Plan on the software coming out a week before the hardware. If something unexpected happens, it ships two days later - no big deal. Plan on them coming out at the same time and you give up that buffer because the hardware can't be used at all without the software.

Didn't they do this with iOS 7? I'm fairly certain I remember that coming out a week before the new iPhone release that took advantage of it.

All this said, I am disappointed that they are hedging by saying April for the watch release date. I can't imagine that was their original target. Sure, I'm glad they held it until they could get it right, but like most (and Apple too, quite probably) I was hoping for "early in the year" to mean actually early in the year.

Like February.
 
smulji said:
He / she means the bigger one.
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Of course. There is a lot more to say. Like, how much are these things actually going to cost? All they've said so far is "starting at $350." That is helpful, especially if you are planning on buying the smaller version of the Sport model, and it is possible that is how much you will actually end up paying.

Will there be any options? Apple is notorious for pricing low-memory models that are barely usable low, so they can ratchet up the price at checkout. Will they do that here? The answer is yes, because even if they don't do it with the memory, they definitely will do it with the bands. The one everyone wants is never the lowest-cost model. Those are there just to get you in the door.

Plus, it would be a wasted marketing opportunity to not do a second announcement. It has been so long since the first one that a second would be widely carried. That's good advertising, and will translate directly into additional sales. They aren't going to give that up. Heck, as a shareholder, I expect them to take full advantage of a strong marketing push with a second announcement about a week before ship.

They are going to sell a lot of these, but there is a science to it.
 
Tankmaze said:
I wonder if apple can create a kinetic watch like in seiko where it would charge the battery just by the movement of the hand..... :D
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I'm sure they would like to, but that requires magnets and coils, and with the already fairly bulky size of :apple:Watch 1.0, it's doubtful today's technology would allow Apple to incorporate kinetic charging, sufficient to satisfactorily power their new device.
 
smulji said:
Took the words right out of my mouth
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That would make sense!! that means we should be getting an invite in a month or 2!

March 2015 Apple Event Itinerary:
-Apple Watch
-Apple Watch Features
-Apple Watch Apps
-Apple Watch
-12" Retina MacBook Air
-Possible 12" iPad Pro (probably too soon, and don't want to draw attention away from watch)
-Apple Watch
-iOS 8.2
-Apple Watch

Anything else??
 
iChrist said:
Is it me, or is the iWatch getting thicker since the announcement months ago??

It looks positively fat. Not attractive at all.

:apple:
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That's getting tiresome...

This is a normal luxury men watch that just came out looks like (not even close to being a big one)

http://www.watchalyzer.com/wp-conte...-mercier-clifton-small-seconds-watch-side.jpg

The Baume-et-Mercier watch in the photo is...
41 mm in diameter, with a case Thickness of 11.54 mm
That watch has a 15500 mm cubed volume
(that's actually thicker than the apple watch, since the top case of the Apple watch is 10mm with the small nub underneath is 1-1.5mm)

The smaller Apple watch of 38mm : about 11900 mm cubed volume
(could be the one pictured, since that would make it look thicker)
The big watch has of 42mm : about 15000 mm cubed volume

Notice how closely the Baume-et-mercier watch aligns with the dimension of the Apple watch... So... Hey!
 
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In my line of work having an Apple Watch on my wrist will be invaluable. Notifications and calls to my wrist while driving, discreet taps to my wrist during meetings whenever I get a message or to alert me of my next appointment. I've needed a smartwatch again ever since I owned a Sony MBW-150 years ago. I'll learn to adapt to the battery life, my MBW-150 had about a day of battery too and it did far far less, but it was never an issue.
 
Every time I see a profile shot of the Apple Watch I think the same thing: Thick, heavy, uncomfortable. I think it was CNET that pointed out that it looks like one of the early calculator watches from the 70s (thick, heavy, uncomfortable)....<shudder>.

Of course, given its limited battery life it might spend more time charging than on your wrist. :)

-P
 
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