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iOS 8 and OS X Yosemite May Launch Separately Despite Integration Features

Cant get it to work

I still cannot get the continuity features to work (Messages and Calling).

I have the OSX Yosemite DP4 and ios8 Beta 4.

Both signed into the same icloud account and both on the same wifi network

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brendu said:
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.

I agree though that it makes sense to stagger the releases of the software. It also helps Apples servers from getting crushed twice as hard when both are released.
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Is your bug to do with Tabs?
I cant tab in safari , Command+T does nothing :(
Macbook Pro Retina 2013 OSX Yosemite DP4
 
haruhiko said:
I don't care about the release schedules but Apple please make features really work between OS X and iOS, yes, I mean the current AirDrop which doesn't support dropping files between OS X and iOS, which is supposed to be fixed in OS X Yosemite and iOS 8.
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According to Rene Ritchie, the reason it took so long to get airdrop is because Steve Jobs and Scott Forstall wouldn't sign off on it.
 
This is a lose-lose in the court of public opinion.
Half say "get your act together and get something done faster," and the other half say "there's so many bugs just get them all fixed before you release this."
 
brendu said:
Thats funny, aside from a new safari bug in beta 4, Yosemite has been nearly rock solid for me on two machines while iOS 8 has been reasonably buggy.

I agree though that it makes sense to stagger the releases of the software. It also helps Apples servers from getting crushed twice as hard when both are released.
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There are reasons for separate release dates, but servers aren't one of them. Yosemite downloads will be negligible compared to iOS 8 ones, the later having 10 times as many devices and a much faster adoption curve.
 
I'm honestly a GIANT fan of them releasing Yosemite in late October. I'd love to get as many bugs fixed as possible. I'm presently in the developer preview and it simply isn't ready for primetime. While rumors state that a public beta will be at the end of the week, I really don't think it's ready quite yet.
 
oatman13 said:
I'm honestly a GIANT fan of them releasing Yosemite in late October. I'd love to get as many bugs fixed as possible. I'm presently in the developer preview and it simply isn't ready for primetime. While rumors state that a public beta will be at the end of the week, I really don't think it's ready quite yet.
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Users are less ready for Yosemite than Yosemite is ready for users. There will be pitchforks over the design, even though we're already passed iOS 7 over a year ago. And when people are still now upgrading to Mavericks a year and a month after first beta, forget about it.
 
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Boy, how cool would that be, though? Assuming no errors (ha), getting an OS update and an iOS update in the same day and having a whole new way to interact with your devices all together. It'd be like Christmas!
 
oatman13 said:
If Apple were to do this I'd personally pay them a visit at Apple HQ and slap every engineer across the face. Mavericks has some of the BEST additions to the Mac OS since its inception. Compressed Memory, GL4, Time Coalescing, AppNap, etc...
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Compressed memory is a lie. That piece of junk was making my system run out of RAM constantly. My computer was crawling until I downgraded it.
 
PocketSand11 said:
Compressed memory is a lie. That piece of junk was making my system run out of RAM constantly. My computer was crawling until I downgraded it.
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A 2008 Mac Pro needs 8 gigs of RAM and a SSD to have sufficient performance going forward. Nothing to do with the software.
 
sualpine said:
A 2008 Mac Pro needs 8 gigs of RAM and a SSD to have sufficient performance going forward. Nothing to do with the software.
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No, it doesn't need that stuff as long as it's running Mountain Lion or earlier. I've got 6GB of RAM and an HDD, and Mountain Lion runs fine. Mavericks, advertised as faster, runs way slower, plus it has new bugs. It has everything to do with the software.
 
PocketSand11 said:
No, it doesn't need that stuff as long as it's running Mountain Lion or earlier. I've got 6GB of RAM and an HDD, and Mountain Lion runs fine. Mavericks, advertised as faster, runs way slower, plus it has new bugs. It has everything to do with the software.
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Of course Mountain Lion runs better, you have aged hardware. You can, however, overcome this with hardware upgrades that you should have done a long time ago considering you bought the most upgradeable Mac available.
Given a system maxed out on RAM and a SSD, Mavericks will run just as fast as Mountain Lion.
 
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sualpine said:
Of course Mountain Lion runs better, you have aged hardware. You can, however, overcome this with hardware upgrades that you should have done a long time ago considering you bought the most upgradeable Mac available.
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Are you saying that Mountain Lion would run worse on new hardware than Mavericks would? The newer OS is nearly always slower. By the way, Apple claimed Mavericks would be faster on my computer. I'm not going to spend money just to support Mavericks when Mountain Lion does the same job for less… and with color labels.
 
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haruhiko said:
I don't care about the release schedules but Apple please make features really work between OS X and iOS, yes, I mean the current AirDrop which doesn't support dropping files between OS X and iOS, which is supposed to be fixed in OS X Yosemite and iOS 8.
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The current Yosemite AirDrop doesn't even work between my two macs, both running Yosemite, without turning on 'old mac support', and neither of them are old macs (all 2012 or later, which is the cutoff I gather)
 
PocketSand11 said:
Are you saying that Mountain Lion would run worse on new hardware than Mavericks would? The newer OS is nearly always slower. By the way, Apple claimed Mavericks would be faster on my computer. I'm not going to spend money just to support Mavericks when Mountain Lion does the same job for less… and with color labels.
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I'm saying that anyone that complains about system performance that is still running a spinning platter has no leg to stand on.

Also, your perception that Mountain Lion does everything Mavericks does is simply untrue. Check the API differences. Many, many apps require Mavericks for those API's (just check the App Store: Pixelmator, Omnifocus 2, Final Cut, Sunrise Calendar, OneNote, etc.).

For any actions that you can still use ML for, there will be more in the future that begin to require Mavs. Just ask any developer.

Furthermore, you can expect to need to upgrade your hardware just the same for Yosemite performance, so you might as well do it now. You're only delaying the inevitable.
 
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PocketSand11 said:
No, it doesn't need that stuff as long as it's running Mountain Lion or earlier. I've got 6GB of RAM and an HDD, and Mountain Lion runs fine. Mavericks, advertised as faster, runs way slower, plus it has new bugs. It has everything to do with the software.
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My 2008 Mac Pro was crawling with 6 GB's of Memory when 2 of my 8 sticks died. This was with Mountain Lion and I had an SSD.
 
That's cool. iOS 8 downloads will be a huge draw on the servers: best for the technicians to focus on that, then a few months later focus on OS X downloads.
 
WiiDsmKR69 said:
I still cannot get the continuity features to work (Messages and Calling).

I have the OSX Yosemite DP4 and ios8 Beta 4.

Both signed into the same icloud account and both on the same wifi network

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Is your bug to do with Tabs?
I cant tab in safari , Command+T does nothing :(
Macbook Pro Retina 2013 OSX Yosemite DP4
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Yea, that continuity feature is not working yet.

but other than that yosemite DP 4 seems great to me. Having barely bugs at all. Xcode 6 beta on the other hand has much work to be done
 
...and the public beta will launch ??

I'm just hoping i'll be able to test this out (whenever the public beta does come) in VMWare Fusion.... but i think i'll be disappointed.
 
PocketSand11 said:
I too am worried about how buggy Yosemite could be, since it's based on Mavericks. They should just fork it straight from Mountain Lion instead to save themselves the trouble of debugging.
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That must be the biggest pile of ******** I have ever read here.

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PocketSand11 said:
Compressed memory is a lie. That piece of junk was making my system run out of RAM constantly. My computer was crawling until I downgraded it.
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It's supposed to "run out of RAM". Empty RAM doesn't do you any good.
 
Launching both iOS 8 and Yosemite the same day, or week for that matter, would be a support nightmare. A staggered release seems the only sane strategy even though there is a lot of integration between the two.
 
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