iOS 8 Likely to Bring Split-Screen Multitasking to the iPad

[Trapezoid]

I'm not moving the goalposts. You said that nobody changes their position to line up with Apple's changes. ie. There isn't anybody who was against a 7" iPad because Apple said it was a bad idea and then said it was a good idea when Apple released the mini.

There are fanboys (of any company, not just Apple) who do that. Do you disagree with that? So your insistence that nobody here has done that makes the claim that there are no fanboys. I thought that was pretty obvious.

Yes I disagree with that. And as I asked in the beginning, can you show me one example? I don't know where we digressed.. You seem to be implying that it happens often, or at the very least that it happens enough that its noticeable. so again, can you provide one example of a person who did that? Not ten, not twenty, not even two. Just one.

 

[John.B]

Laughing out loud to all Apple Fanboys dissed the same feature when it was on Windows tablets and now praise it as new innovation

Laughing out loud at MR posters that think Apple product users are all of the same mind and want all of the same features.

 

[kdarling]

Yes I disagree with that. And as I asked in the beginning, can you show me one example? I don't know where we digressed.. You seem to be implying that it happens often, or at the very least that it happens enough that its noticeable. so again, can you provide one example of a person who did that? Not ten, not twenty, not even two. Just one.

You want an example of someone who was against 7" tablets and then later reportedly changed their mind?

Steve Jobs. I'm pretty sure that he counts as an Apple fanboy.



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I don't think it can be denied that forums often tend to be filled with posts from people who want to keep the status quo -- whether that be the same size display, no multitasking, a certain case material, or whatever.

So your question really should be: do those same people who predict that Apple would never do this or that, or who say that they would never buy such a device, ever later publicly admit that they were wrong?

Such admissions do sometime happen here, but it's very rare.

 

[Trapezoid]

You want an example of someone who was against 7" tablets and then later reportedly changed their mind?

Steve Jobs. I'm pretty sure that he counts as an Apple fanboy.

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I don't think it can be denied that forums often tend to be filled with posts from people who want to keep the status quo -- whether that be the same size display, no multitasking, a certain case material, or whatever.

So your question really should be: do those same people who predict that Apple would never do this or that, or who say that they would never buy such a device, ever later publicly admit that they were wrong?

Such admissions do sometime happen here, but it's very rare.

Not at all what I was arguing, again shifting goalposts.

The go to argument for apple fanboyism from people on the internet not just here goes something like this " LOLOL apple fanboys said they hated this now they love it"

Now since there's zero proof that that has ever happened, you're going to posit that those people just never admit they secretly like it?

I think we could have saved the three of us time if you and sracer just said "no trapezoid,I cannot find any proof of a single person flip flopping"

 

[herbapou]

Ugh. Do we really need this? It's the kind of feature where the idea seems better than the reality. The vast majority of users would never bother with it.

The iPad needs multi-user support much more desperately.

imo both should have been in YEARs ago. and with super low memory on idevices, dont expect this to be supported in anything but 2014+ models.

 

[Menneisyys2]

imo both should have been in YEARs ago. and with super low memory on idevices, dont expect this to be supported in anything but 2014+ models.

When implemented properly, no RAM is needed for multiuser support. The OS can simply switch between the different users at login time, make the necessary changes to, say, symbolic links and all is set. See for example how the JB tweak "Slices" works.

Of course, Apple, if they implement multiuser-logon support, is likely to state it's technically unfeasible to do it on "old" hardware. Nevertheless, what Apple states when explaining why a given feature couldn't be made available on older hardware usually has nothing to do with truth, as has been proved in several occasions.

 

[Mainsail]

Sounds good when you say it fast

Like many others, I would like to see a multitasking split screen feature for the iPad, but I suspect I would not use it that often. The iPad is a touch first device that really works best with a full screen, and the multitasking gestures take care of most situations......but not all. In practice, I think most folks would rarely use the split screen.....but it would be nice to have.

 

[Tech198]

Does Apple have to do what everyone does ...

There no different than any other company. The hint here, they deliberately leave features out, even if they probably think it would be good like split-screen. They see other companies have it, and then they must do as well.

Apple says "it all due to feedback." some of it may be, but not all..

Because it you look at the cycle of when other companies have things like this, weather its a flashlight, or not, then look at Apple, they delay these enhancements/features on every time. With the exception of "PC free" OTA activation, it took more than a year for Apple to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

And they say its all 'feedback" related ? There must a constant coincidence every time, which i doubt..

Its about time Apple did this, so obviously now it's something users could benefit from ..

Is Apple trying to say "ya, we know other companies have split screen in their tablets, but no one seems to be interested, at least not till iOS 8."

I fail to see this..

 

[charlituna]

And hopefully multi user accounts.

I would be very shocked if we see either. Apple has never treated iOS devices like computers and may never.

 

[charlituna]

It's funny that so many of us have to wait so long to be able to do these kinds of things with our devices. Yeah, way to go, Windows tablets -- you can already do this. And the iPad should already do this. But it doesn't make me or millions of others want your tablet. Instead, we wait.

But you forget the millions of sales year after year of iPads that can't do it. And usage stats that shows that folks aren't discovering this and returning them in scores.

So maybe it's not really that big of a deal breaker

And if they were going to do it I don't see this 'compatible apps' notion as really satisfying anyone. Why? Because it implies that developers can pick whether to allow such a pairing. Which makes sense with games or video playback apps sure. But it still won't be true multitasking the way that folks are yelling about from Metro and the like.

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Ugh. Do we really need this? It's the kind of feature where the idea seems better than the reality. The vast majority of users would never bother with it.

The iPad needs multi-user support much more desperately.

Most users not likely to use that either. Saved restrictions mode perhaps. But not true multiuser.

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Besides.. it seems like the 'blogs' are suddenly reporting Apple is doing everything we could possibly want.. yes.. dream it.. now it's a reality..

Happens every year. Cause it gets hits

I still call BS on the Beats rumor..

I think there could be something but not what folks think. Like it's about Beats Music and it's more like 3.2 million

 

[madeirabhoy]

i think this would be great, its not that id use it much, but one thing i would definitely use it for would be to have two safari windows open when cooking, one showing football stream, one with the recipe open.

be even better if there was a swipe to have two windows, and you could swipe to switch between one and two windows.

so i could watch football and when i want to look at the recipy, a 3 finger swipe or whatnot and it'd squash the football and open the recipe, then swipe it back...

 

[thekeyring]

Let me guess, now multitasking will be a desirable feature, but before Apple had it is was a gimmick and needless feature. It's funny how that seems to be around here, isn't it?

I think most people's reaction was "that doesn't make the tablet any good" which is true.

Things like 500,000 iPad apps, build quality, ease of use, etc seem to matter more.

 

[Carouser]

Different people saying different things. Such a simple concept, its amazing that anyone can use things like this as proof of fanboyism.

But hey, you guys gotta entertain yourselves somehow I guess.

You'll never get any examples of all these hypothetical posters who are always flipping from "This is a dumb idea" to "This is the best thing ever" post-Apple implementation. I've never seen it on these forums ever.

If you hassle people who push this 'argument' enough they might drag out one poster who says "Oh, I changed my mind about this thing". Of course, that's hardly evidence for this supposed onslaught of posters who are always flipping to extremes.

Basically, when you read this argument from anyone, it's a pretty good indicator you can add them to your ignore list without any negative consequences whatsoever.

 

[Trapezoid]

You'll never get any examples of all these hypothetical posters who are always flipping from "This is a dumb idea" to "This is the best thing ever" post-Apple implementation. I've never seen it on these forums ever.

If you hassle people who push this 'argument' enough they might drag out one poster who says "Oh, I changed my mind about this thing". Of course, that's hardly evidence for this supposed onslaught of posters who are always flipping to extremes.

Basically, when you read this argument from anyone, it's a pretty good indicator you can add them to your ignore list without any negative consequences whatsoever.

Oh I know it's just funny seeing them trip over themselves and move goal posts and inventing things.

Essentially what they're saying is this forum has different members each with a wide variety of opinions and this makes all apple users flip floppers. Defies logic on many levels, but it sounds sane to them as theyre typing

 

[MagnusVonMagnum]

Anyone remember when Apple used to INNOVATE rather than just copy their competitors? It's amazing how fast things change when your CEO changes. I guess Steve should have hand-picked a little better....

 

[zipa]

Anyone remember when Apple used to INNOVATE rather than just copy their competitors? It's amazing how fast things change when your CEO changes. I guess Steve should have hand-picked a little better....

Well, to be honest, Apple modernized the smartphone, created the (commercially viable at a minimum) tablet and are making record profits in a steeply declining PC market. And all that within the last 5-7 years. They could be doing worse, I think.

But yes, there are several similarities with Apple today and Nokia back in 2005 or so. The fatter they are, the fatter they fall. Let's see if Apple will get its **** together.

 

[sracer]

Oh I know it's just funny seeing them trip over themselves and move goal posts and inventing things.

Essentially what they're saying is this forum has different members each with a wide variety of opinions and this makes all apple users flip floppers. Defies logic on many levels, but it sounds sane to them as theyre typing

When one believes that Apple is the only company that doesn't attract fanboys, anything is possible.

 

[Trapezoid]

When one believes that Apple is the only company that doesn't attract fanboys, anything is possible.

Keep moving goalposts, its the only thing you can do at this point. I answered your question, two days later still waiting to get one example out of you...can't be this difficult could it?

Think before posting next time.

 

[Traverse]

I dunno. Maybe I just need to use it a bit more, but it never felt quite right. Kinda seems to lag a little bit; there is a pause before you can use the app you switch to and it always throws me off.

I generally prefer to use the app switcher, even if I'm only "moving over" one app. The transition seems to account for the moments spent loading the app, such that the "lag" becomes less (barely) noticeable.

I have noticed the same thing, but I assumed it was just my iPad 3.

 

[SuperPolli]

I can honestly say that this is the one feature I really wish iPad had. I've tried Surface and Galaxy Tab devices with this feature and it's really a very cool feature. If iPad got this it would be one of Apple's best iPad related decisions ever.

 

[bpcookson]

I have noticed the same thing, but I assumed it was just my iPad 3.

I have an iPad 3 and a rMini. It's worse on the former but still noticeable on the latter.

 

[Trik]

Well that was quick to have the first apologist reply...

Change goal posts much? All this board does is rally around apps that Apple did first that others copy; but now that Apple is doing something that Samsung did first on smartphones to not being a "Samsung first".

The hypocrisy on this forum is appalling.

I am a member of Macrumors, but Macrumors doesn't speak for me... Hypocrisy is an individual trait, not one for the collective. I'm sorry if you find me appalling though, maybe you're taking things too seriously.

 

[memeplex]

I'm looking forward to more Desktop-esque features on the iPad, otherwise it's just going to sit in my desk drawer doing nothing.

Probably not exactly what you had in mind, but we made Duet to extend your Desktop to the iPad. Turning it into a second display.

www.duetdisplay.com