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Should we flood apple with emails? That's just ridiculous...

Ask them on bugreport.apple.. Become a free safari developer and report directly to the engineering team.. Trust me, the responses are better and they do listn.. They sought end out 2-3 of my bugs, and features... Mostly, they close your bug, saying it is a duplicate if someone else's.. But if it's bug, and not a feature request, they respond
 
Ask them on bugreport.apple.. Become a free safari developer and report directly to the engineering team.. Trust me, the responses are better and they do listn.. They sought end out 2-3 of my bugs, and features... Mostly, they close your bug, saying it is a duplicate if someone else's.. But if it's bug, and not a feature request, they respond

Its still not a bug though
 
Wait, why is the stopwatch supposed to appear on the lock screen exactly?

What he means, is when you start a stop watch or a timer, instead of opening the app, it'll be better if that is shown on the lock screen...

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Its still not a bug though

Apple accepts suggestions.. You won't believe!

You know the "button shapes" in accessibility .. I had given them a similar idea... In the next beta update, boom! You get this.. Impressed with that!
 
But when on the lock screen don't you just slide up the control center and pick stopwatch?
 
Aaaah yes, a stopwatch on the lock screen. They better add in that feature that 0.001% of their users will ever use. It's critical to the continued success of iOS. :rolleyes:
 
The timer does display on the lock screen.

Timer does but stopwatch doesn't, odd isn't it?

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But when on the lock screen don't you just slide up the control center and pick stopwatch?

Let's say you're running and you wanna see how long you've been running, you get your phone out of your pocket and just press the lock button, you see your stopwatch counting. Way less of a hassle
 
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Let's say you're running and you wanna see how long you've been running, you get your phone out of your pocket and just press the lock button, you see your stopwatch counting. Way less of a hassle


would siri tell you ?
 
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Timer does but stopwatch doesn't, odd isn't it

I can totally understand the business logic of a timer on the lockscreen.

You put something in the oven and are watching TV. you press the power button on your phone to see how much time is left.

interactions with a stopwatch are more frequent so I don't quite understand why it should be on a lockscreen.
 
I can totally understand the business logic of a timer on the lockscreen.

You put something in the oven and are watching TV. you press the power button on your phone to see how much time is left.

interactions with a stopwatch are more frequent so I don't quite understand why it should be on a lockscreen.

Why wouldn't it? That's the question! If timer is on the lock screen, how come stopwatch isn't? It's almost the same thing. I'm gonna send an email to Apple to see what they think
 
Why wouldn't it? That's the question! If timer is on the lock screen, how come stopwatch isn't? It's almost the same thing. I'm gonna send an email to Apple to see what they think
Not quite almost the same thing. A timer is there to start and just run down to the end, which requires no interaction after it is started. A stopwatch is usually there to stop at some point yourself, which requires interaction, and that alone can be enough of a difference between what Apple's usability dictates as being appropriate or not for the lockscreen.
 
Why wouldn't it? That's the question! If timer is on the lock screen, how come stopwatch isn't? It's almost the same thing. I'm gonna send an email to Apple to see what they think

Well, if Apple added the stopwatch to the lock screen people would complain that they can't start/stop/reset from the lock screen in turn making the feature useless. Especially considering you have to unlock the phone to even interact with it which defeats the purpose of tracking time properly.
 
Not quite almost the same thing. A timer is there to start and just run down to the end, which requires no interaction after it is started. A stopwatch is usually there to stop at some point yourself, which requires interaction, and that alone can be enough of a difference between what Apple's usability dictates as being appropriate or not for the lockscreen.

I agree, a stopwatch is there to stop at some point, so the best way to do it would be to make it like a notification, you swipe and you pause it! That'd be great!
 
I agree, a stopwatch is there to stop at some point, so the best way to do it would be to make it like a notification, you swipe and you pause it! That'd be great!

A stopwatch is supposed to be used for accuracy. Implementing it in the lock screen means being a few seconds off even with a notification, once your screen goes to sleep you have to hit the button, wait for the slight delay in getting to the lock screen, and interacting with the UI.

It would be stupid for apple to break with their UI to implement a feature like stopwatch, which in most use cases is meant to be watched the entire time for accuracy.
 
A stopwatch is supposed to be used for accuracy. Implementing it in the lock screen means being a few seconds off even with a notification, once your screen goes to sleep you have to hit the button, wait for the slight delay in getting to the lock screen, and interacting with the UI.

It would be stupid for apple to break with their UI to implement a feature like stopwatch, which in most use cases is meant to be watched the entire time for accuracy.

What you're saying doesn't make sense. You are already a few seconds off because you have to unlock your phone.
 
What you're saying doesn't make sense. You are already a few seconds off because you have to unlock your phone.

EXACTLY.

The stopwatch, if used for precision, is an app you wouldn't leave while in use. If you do use it for longer durations where a second or two doesn't matter (like timing a car ride across town) then you'd just unlock the phone anyway.

Basically it doesn't make sense for apple to change their entire lock screen paradigm for the odd use case of quick access to a timer, because if the user wanted to be precise with it they wouldn't be locking the phone while timing in the first place.


That said, maybe we'll be surprised with a "Hey siri, stop my stopwatch". I hope thats the case because I think its the only workaround that fits apple's paradigm that will accomplish what you want it to. :)
 
EXACTLY.

The stopwatch, if used for precision, is an app you wouldn't leave while in use. If you do use it for longer durations where a second or two doesn't matter (like timing a car ride across town) then you'd just unlock the phone anyway.

Basically it doesn't make sense for apple to change their entire lock screen paradigm for the odd use case of quick access to a timer, because if the user wanted to be precise with it they wouldn't be locking the phone while timing in the first place.


That said, maybe we'll be surprised with a "Hey siri, stop my stopwatch". I hope thats the case because I think its the only workaround that fits apple's paradigm that will accomplish what you want it to. :)

It wouldn't change anything, it would be the same way a notification is on the lock screen, you could swipe and pause just like on iOS 8 you can dismiss notifications by swiping. It would allow stopwatch to be displayed and controlled from the lock screen!
 
Pro tip. Make a stopwatch app that incorporates a widget that can be added to notification center.
 
Let's say you're running and you wanna see how long you've been running, you get your phone out of your pocket and just press the lock button, you see your stopwatch counting. Way less of a hassle

Assuming an iDevice has Touch ID, you can simply press the home button and leave your finger there to unlock it to display the stopwatch.

Personally I'd just use the clock or set the timer for how long I want to run and see the time left on the lock screen and do the math.
 
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