iOS 9 GM - The Waiting

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by ithinkwithportals, Aug 22, 2015.

  1. ithinkwithportals macrumors regular

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    Well, it looks like iOS 9 Beta 6 isn't going to happen, so now it's time to discuss the upcoming Golden Master release instead. What glaring bugs have you noticed that are still remaining in Beta 5? What features still need more work before the GM? What signal issues have you had so far that you hope will be resolved in the GM? And what bugs or features do you want to see fixed in iOS 9.0.1, if they aren't already by the GM release?
    Let's talk about all that here, shall we?
     
  2. maxsix Suspended

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    Too busy enjoying the relatively bug free 8.4.1 in my iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Air.

    They're doing well, stable fast and only crash apps once in awhile, that's about as good as Apple gets.

    I'm not about to voluntarily jump to a new version... I've got better things to do :D
     
  3. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Lag and jerkiness and slowness (iPad Mini 2 and iPad 2) on a release that shouldn't have caused any slower performance at all. Wish Apple would not tie iOS releases to the release of iPhones. Put the 6S out on 8.5 or something and release 9 when its truly ready and tested.
     
  4. Yun0 macrumors 65816

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    do we really need another of these every time..?

    might as well start the ios 10 "waiting" thread already (& how much it "sucks ios 9 was perfect!11oneone")...
     
  5. dhlizard macrumors G4

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  6. batting1000 macrumors 604

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    No one is telling you to come to these threads and reply. If you don't want to participate in them, don't click on them. It's not like it's a misleading title and you weren't expecting it...
     
  7. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    iOS 9 PB2 on my 6 Plus works better than iOS 8.4 ever did. They fixed a bunch of issues, mainly the lack of RAM issue isn't a major problem anymore.
     
  8. Applegeeky macrumors member

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    Is the battery really lasting an hour longer on normal mode ?
     
  9. JXShine macrumors 6502

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    nope not at all. If anything iOS 9 uses more battery.
     
  10. bushido Suspended

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    no i got around 5ish hours on my 6. back on 8.4 i get 7 hours again
     
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    I've been consistently getting 8-9 hours usage with 1-2 days standby on my iPhone 6 without using low power mode (I've never even turned that on once yet in any of the betas, and never had to.)

    I like how you both claim your experience as fact that iOS 9 is junk when it comes to battery. I've seen longer battery life on iOS 9 than I did with 8. (More so on PB 3)
     
  12. shenfrey macrumors 68000

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    Its still incredibly glitchy, I am using an iPhone 6 plus and those who say it's running perfectly either are blind or have extremely poor expectations/standards.

    Apps have a delay in loading, spotlight crashes so phone restarts, keyboard sometimes bugs out, stutters all over the place especially in control centre and multitasking plus many other things.

    There really needs to be a beta 6 because if Apple are jumping straight into GM after this, then I will certainly be hesitant upgrading.
     
  13. quackers82 macrumors 6502

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    On my iPhone 6 I'm really noticing that the battery is much better. But i see a lot of jerkiness in the graphics transitions like closing an app and going back to the home screen , it stutters.
     
  14. QuarterSwede, Aug 23, 2015
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    QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    I'm not saying it was perfect. Of course there are bugs but they are minor compared to the ones it fixes (like being able to have more than two apps in memory or the camera no longer crashing or lagging for seconds on statup).

    As far as the battery goes its been the same for me as 8.4 was. But on a Plus it's hard to notice smaller changes as the battery life is already fantastic.

    For any bugs/issues report them using the Feedback app. That's what it's for. If you're on the PB beta and you don't you have no right to complain when it goes live later. So far they've fixed more bugs that I've inputted than haven't been fixed by 3/4. I think I've submitted almost 20 since the first public beta.
     
  15. ithinkwithportals thread starter macrumors regular

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    I finally ended up downgrading from PB 3 to 8.4, because iOS 9 was laggy and rather unstable on the iPod Touch 5, as well as the battery draining in only 3-4 hours. Maybe it's the A5 processor, but overall it just did not seem like much consideration was given to speed and usability on the A5 platform. If you're going to support a platform for installation, surely you could make sure the software works well? Also, I missed my JB from iOS 8.4, so that and the lack of performance are why I ditched iOS 9. Maybe if more of the bugs and performance issues can be ironed out, then I'll consider upgrading when there's a JB is out for 9, just because I miss the customizability.
     
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    i love how u claim our claim is wrong while claiming your own :p i was simply mentioning my experience just like you. the one before the last beta worked well but the latest sucked my battery a lot quicker again so i went back to 8.4 for this and jailbreak reasons
     
  17. JXShine macrumors 6502

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    Since when did I claim it as a fact?
    I think you are just too narrow minded to accept that people can experience problems with Apple products.
     
  18. AbSoluTc macrumors 68040

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    So let me get this right, you downgraded back to 8.4 and aren't even running a beta but you open a thread wanting to discuss 9 and waiting for the GM? Really?

    Opening the beta to the public was the worst decision ever for Apple. Nothing but a bunch of whiners.
     
  19. ithinkwithportals thread starter macrumors regular

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    I ran iOS 9 from PB 1 to PB 3, and it's certainly not my first experience with betas (I've done it since the first PB of 8.3). It got to a point where I had to objectify the reasons I was running iOS 9 in the first place. One was new features, and unfortunately, there just weren't but a few added to iOS 9 on the A5 platform. Also, I had hoped that it would fix the battery life and WiFried issue, but if anything, it made them worse for me. Third, app compatibility was a major deal breaker for me. There are some older apps important to my daily life and projects that iOS 9 broke. So waiting for app upgrades will undoubtedly be one of the reasons I shall wait. If I can find good alternatives that work on iOS 9, then I would considering reinstalling iOS 9. Finally, I use jailbreak tweaks to get past some of the annoyances of iOS in general, on the A5 platform, and with no jailbreak available for either 8.4.1 or 9 yet, it isn't worth running the upgrade at this point. Don't get me wrong, I like the new interface of 9 and the new features certainly are a plus, but the nagging lag, battery, and Wi-Fi issues, plus the lack of an available jailbreak are why I reverted to 8.4 . Also, just because I do not currently run the beta does not mean I can't join in the discussion. I did run all of them before reverting, after all.
     
  20. XTheLancerX, Aug 23, 2015
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    XTheLancerX macrumors 68000

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    iOS 9 isn't what I thought it would be. Apple promised smoother animations and better battery life. I'm not seeing either. Sorry, Apple. Control Center is much smoother on an iPhone 5 running iOS 8 than an iPhone 6 running iOS 9. I don't understand how Metal was implemented and everything just got worse. Hopefully they clean up a ton for the GM because right now I'm not seeing it. I will do a clean install when iOS 9 goes public though so let's hope that fixes things. Public Beta is everything but clean.

    Anyone else notice how spotlight lags and hangs a lot more since iOS 9 beta 5 (PB 3)? Especially if you slide up and down really fast it hangs right in the middle of the animation. Also, sometimes the Siri suggestions appear but nothing else blurs then you get stuck in spotlight and it won't go away. The app switcher is stil causing frame drops on both my iPhone 6 and iPad mini 2, however it's better than it was before. Exiting and entering the switcher is where it is most problematic, and even sliding away apps is a little laggy and scrolling drops frames too. It's a mess. On iPad if you hold two fingers on the keyboard and let go, it gets stuck in trackpad mode.

    These have existed since early iOS 8.0 betas, some even in iOS 7: Splitting and moving the keyboard still causes the non letter keys to turn dark gray and it lags and stutters and has graphical artifacts. Popping up split keyboard is weird, it is connected for the duration of the animation and then it snaps back to being split. Rotating App Store stutters, rotating spotlight stutters, rotating keyboard stutters, control/notification center over keyboard stutters, control/notification center over open folder stutters, rotating slide to power off screen stutters... There are a ton of totally random stutters that are sometimes there and sometimes not mixed into the mess. Nothing feels consistent, and it makes the OS feel unpleasant or "fragile." "Don't do this! It'll lag and drop frames. Do it slightly different instead so it doesn't look so bad." That sort of thing kind of goes through my mind all the time when using iOS. Best example is scrolling, or putting the keyboard away before you want to rotate your device, use control center, etc.

    I have made over 50 pieces of feedback, and everything bad I've mentioned in this post has been sent to Apple. I don't care if it is being nit-picky, it damages the experience and I firmly believe that that matters just as much as glaring bugs, like no Siri Suggestions appearing in the search pane to the left of the home screen. Let's hope that Apple finally realizes this again, and makes iOS as smooth and dependable as iOS 6 was in the end.
     
  21. Act3 macrumors 6502a

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    Lets hope they give us time to try the GM and make a decision on whether to keep it before they close the signing window for 8.4.1
     
  22. iTom17 macrumors 6502a

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    Actually, I've been experiencing smoother animations with the latest beta on my iPhone 6. Do have to say Control Center indeed doesn't feel as smooth as it did with iOS 8.3. But overall it feels definitely smoother than ever before.

    In fact, iOS 9 in general feels more stable than iOS 8.3. Have had a few times that my iPhone crashed, but that's because of a few bugs AND apps that have yet to be optimized for iOS 9. Also, the new Search sometimes shows an design glitch, but again... That's just a little bug. They can easily fix this in the GM. Shouldn't be a problem for them. I'll see what the GM brings. But for now, iOS 9 is very, very stable for a beta. More stable than any earlier iOS release. That's pretty amazing!
     
  23. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Shame its not great on anything but the absolute latest hardware. It should be faster on pretty much everything as it barely has any new features (especially on A5 devices).

    Been using iOS sine iPhone OS 3, and this may well be the first time I don't upgrade.
     
  24. iTom17 macrumors 6502a

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    Well, the problem is that Metal is only supported on devices with at least the A7-chip. If it would be supported on older devices as well, you would have seen the difference without a doubt.

    But now, Apple doesn't seem to have done much for devices running on an older chip. At least, I've seen some videos on YouTube and it looks like it's unchanged from iOS 8.4 if not a tiny bit faster (but only when launching apps). Animations still don't look smoother at all.

    That's kind of a disappointment, even considering I have the latest iPhone. A lot people in my area have been experiencing a lot problems with their devices. My father has an iPhone 4s, my grandmother has the iPad 2. And both of them find that it's pretty slow running iOS 8 on it. iOS 7 wasn't bad on those devices (believe me on this), but iOS 8 completely ruined it. I hoped iOS 9 would be the lifesaver, but it doesn't seem like it is... Still hope it gets better with the Golden Master. It would make a lot people happy.
     
  25. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    I know that metal doesn't run on these other devices, but i had the hope that the sloppy memory management and other poor coding in iOS 8 would be cleaned up. Even on the iPad Mini 2, iOS 9 looks to be a disaster, which I just don't understand.

    Hopefully the GM speeds things up. I can cope with iOS 8 speeds on my iPad 2 and my iPhone 5 runs iOS 8 well, but below that on either I don't think I'd want to upgrade.
     

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