iOS 9: iPhone 4S will receive it?

AGX

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Hi,

do you think that iPhone 4S will receive the iOs 9 that Tim Cook has described as an optimization and not an "add feature" release?
 

Intell

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Possibly, but not likely. It could be part of the S models getting another year of iOS updates over the preceding non-S models. The discontinuation of iOS updated for an S model has only happened once, because of this it is not possible to define a trend.
 

yzjustdatguy

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I'm gonna say no considering that every phone prior got 3 software updates before being discontinued. iOS 8 will probably be the last update for the 4S
 

Matheew944

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Absolutely not.Ios 9 wont be compatible with 4s..Iphone 5 will get., but possibly IOS 9 will be the last for Iphone 5.
 

AGX

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Wonderful...

The last update for 4S has killed it for usability.
 

AleXXXa

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I hope so. Or at least give us the option to go back to iOS 7.

iOS8 makes the phone unusable. 7.1 was okay-ish.
 
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XTheLancerX

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If iOS 9 is the rumored performance/bug fix update, I don't see why not, actually. However, it may still get discontinued anyway. We will see what happens in June, I guess.
 

ucfgrad93

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Possibly, but not likely. It could be part of the S models getting another year of iOS updates over the preceding non-S models. The discontinuation of iOS updated for an S model has only happened once, because of this it is not possible to define a trend.
Agreed. I think it is highly unlikely the 4s will get iOS 9.
 

sunking101

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Wonderful...

The last update for 4S has killed it for usability.
Always the case. Never install the third major update from the version of iOS that your phone ships with.
Personally I would never go past the second, from painful experience.
 

Applejuiced

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Always the case. Never install the third major update from the version of iOS that your phone ships with.
Personally I would never go past the second, from painful experience.
Well said.
We saw how ios 6.1.6 ended up running on the iphone 3GS and ios 7.1.2 on the iphone 4.
After 3 years of updates the old hardware with the latest software really drags and makes for a painful experience.
 
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Speedman100

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If the 4s doesn't get the update, then that means the iPod touch is dead to Apple. The iPod touch came out at the same time as the iPhone 5, but it uses the processor of the 4s. The iPad 2 uses this processor, as does the iPad mini. I feel like these devices might get one more year, but of course they might not. It would be weird for the iPod touch though. Apple would be selling a dead device.
 

Paddle1

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We have no idea, there are arguments on both sides. It should be easier to guess closer to WWDC.
 

ditzy

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Normally I would say no. This is the year the 4s should be cut off. However apple are still selling the original iPad mini, which has the same processor as the 4s. Which would lead me to guess that the mini will be supported next iOS update. If they support the mini, there is no reason not to support the 4s.
However normal iPhone precedence indicates that it won't get iOS 9.
 

oldmacs

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If they support the iPod Touch 5 there is no reason not to support the 4S as they are the same internally in terms of the processor, ram and graphics. I assume since the iPod Touch 5 is for sale, that it will be supported, and thus the iPhone 4S will also be supported. Also the iPad Mini 1 is still for sale which is also A5. In fact between the iPad 3, iPad 2 and iPad Mini 1, around 60 percent of iPad users use a A5 iPad.

There is no real 'pattern' to iPhones receiving support. The 2G and 3G received 2 updates and the 3GS and 4 received 3. No reason that Apple can't give the 4S 4 updates, especially if iOS 9 is focusing on bug fixes and performance improvements (if the rumours are correct).

There are also far more iPhone 4s's in use than previous iPhone models in their 3rd and 4th years, as Apple sold more 4S's than any model before it.

Lets also remember that the iPhone 4S has done better than the iPhone 4, in terms of running its 3rd update far better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU06MwGikwA&spfreload=10

Thats iOS 5 vs iOS 8, and tbh there isn't a great deal of difference.
 

yaboyac29

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if they do: why is my phone so slow
If they don't: **** you Apple. Piece of **** company. Planned obsolescence. BLAH BLAH BLAH
 

iGeek2014

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I'd have thought it highly unlikely.

Seeing as the iPhone 4S will be four years old this year I can't imagine Apple would wish to continue updating it.

Not only that if iOS 8 performs badly on the device, what's to say iOS 9 will be any different?
 

oldmacs

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I'd have thought it highly unlikely.

Seeing as the iPhone 4S will be four years old this year I can't imagine Apple would wish to continue updating it.

Not only that if iOS 8 performs badly on the device, what's to say iOS 9 will be any different?
Why not? The rumour is iOS 9 will be a performance based update os if it runs the same or better than iOS 8, then they should support it. Especially as it shares the internals with the iPod Touch 5 which is for sale now which I would assume will receive iOS 9 (as besides one time, Apple has always provided updates for devices , a year after they are discontinued). The 4S has similar internals to the iPad 2, iPad Mini 1 and iPad 3, which hold around 60 percent of the iPad market share.

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When did Tim Cook describe this? Source?
He never did. The general assumption is that iOS 9 will mainly focus on performance improvements and bug fixes, based on several rumours.
 

GreyOS

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It's more likely to get iOS 9 than iPhone 4 was ever going to get iOS 8, but it's still hard to say.
 

oldmacs

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If history is any indication, then no ):
History also indicates that apple changes iPhone support cycles..

The 2G and 3G got two updates
The 3GS and 4 got three updates

Maybe the cycle will follow the pattern?

The 4S and 5 could get four updates

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It's more likely to get iOS 9 than iPhone 4 was ever going to get iOS 8, but it's still hard to say.
It is hard to say.

I think the most likely reason for it to get iOS 9, is that unlike the lone supported A4 iPhone 4 in 2014, the iPhone 4S has the identical touch 5, and the A5 iPad 2, iPad Mini and iPad 3 which count for over half the installed iPad base.

There are also more iPhone 4S's in use this year than there were iPhone 4's last year. I'd put that down to the fact that with every iPhone, Apple sold more and more of them, meaning with each version, there are more out in the wild.
 

C DM

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Yes...no...maybe?

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1845409/
 
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