iOS 9 on iPhone 4 to Get Rid of iOS 7 Holdouts?

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by im_to_hyper, Jun 10, 2015.

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Is the Apple Store Employee's predication about reincarnating the iPhone 4 going to happen?

Poll closed Aug 10, 2015.
  1. Yes! With the performance level reaching that of iOS 6, it simply makes sense to get everyone on 9

    3.8%
  2. Maybe: it is higher performing, but Apple is not known for resurrecting EOL devices, but they COULD

    15.4%
  3. No: There is simply no way we would see Apple do this.

    80.8%
  1. im_to_hyper macrumors 65816

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    #1
    Note: I'm the kind of guy people start chatting with randomly.

    At the Apple Store in Irvine/Santa Ana today one of the employees was chatting with me incessantly and "nerding out" about stuff.

    He mentioned:
    • Later betas may actually include support for the iPhone 4 (and thus A4) simply because of the higher performance of iOS 9 vs. iOS 8.
    • He mentioned a lot of holdouts of iOS 7 are on the iPhone 4
    • Speculates iOS 10/X will drop all 32-bit devices
    • Goal would be to get all iOS 7/8 devices to 9 for one "final hurrah" before the "big purge" next year
    • Does this make sense, or was this just an overly-caffeinated Apple store employee?
     
  2. MinEderPlayz macrumors 6502a

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    Why would they?
    iPhone 4 is dead, get over it.
     
  3. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Would be awesome but I doubt it for the iPhone 4….

    Also I doubt the A6 devices will be dropped in iOS 10… I think Apple is aiming for longer support cycles.
     
  4. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    Nope. The iPhone 4's performance was completely ruined with iOS 7.0 and fixed only on 7.1. With iOS 8 it would be unusable and at this point iOS 9 isn't really any better.

    iOS 10 will also likely be for the 5 and up, why would the 4S have the longer lifespan?
     
  5. im_to_hyper thread starter macrumors 65816

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  6. im_to_hyper thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Makes sense - especially with more businesses using Apple products and needing that multi-year stability.

    Until yesterday, people said the same about the iPad 2, iPhone 4S and iPod touch. Why? To get everyone off iOS 7 and onto iOS 9 to have a clear delineation before the next generation of iOS.
     
  7. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    I was saying that A5 devices would get iOS 9 because they're in extremely high usage and still sold.

    Makes no sense that they'd be concerned for a device that makes up 5 percent of their market share, but then they'd go and drop all 32 bit devices that make up a huge part of their market share (and sure this will drop but not below 30 I'd estimate) the year after.

    A5 devices may get dropped in iOS 10 but I doubt A6 will.
     
  8. Paddle1 macrumors 68030

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    The difference being the A5 devices are supported on iOS 8, the iPhone 4 has already been dropped and Apple has never undropped a device.

    Also the experience is too degraded on the iPhone 4.
     
  9. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Well actually, Apple has also never given an an iPhone four updates or an iPad five updates, so they could always break their patterns, but it would seem unlikely.

    I think that the A5 is really what Apple sees as a minimum at the moment (like how the requirements for 10.8, 10.9, 10.10 and 10.11 are the same). Who knows, maybe their new approach of a 'core os' + slowly enable features + optimisation will bring the A5 devices more updates.
     
  10. GreyOS macrumors 68030

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    not gonna happen imo. also not everyone thought the 4S was dead/not going to get iOS 9. many argued it was likely, due to the rumoured focus on optimisation for iOS 9.
     
  11. masands macrumors regular

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    If anyone of this was true Apple would most definitely show it off in the keynote.
     
  12. oldmacs macrumors 68040

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    Well if it were true, Apple could still be trying to get it running.. e.g. they didn't have it running as well as they wanted so they didn't advertise it.

    Food for thought, iOS 4 wasn't ready for the iPad 1 till iOS 4.2… It was unsupported on iOS 4 and 4.1 though that was a different scenario of course.
     
  13. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Yup, Apple didn't list it as one of the supported devices, and it wasn't even part of the previous iOS version, so the probability of them bringing it in late in the game for some reason is pretty much right around 0.
     
  14. entropi macrumors 6502

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    It would be nice to get chapters back on my audiobooks...
    (which you get in 8.4, but so far my iPhone 4 can just run 7.1.2)
     
  15. Paradoxally macrumors 65816

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    It's not gonna happen. Once a device reaches end of life, it will not receive any more updates.

    The iPhone 4 had a good run. Time to let go and upgrade.
     
  16. richwoodrocket macrumors 68020

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    The person you were talking to shouldn't be an apple employee. They're distributing false information that makes absolutely no sense.
     
  17. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Assuming that all that was said as something that's actually going to happen and not in more of just a techie "wouldn't it be cool if..." fun conversation that then the OP perhaps thought might carry more meaning for whatever reason.
     
  18. LordQ macrumors 68040

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    Then make it for iPad 1 too...

    No way that's happening.
     
  19. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

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    It's never been done before, so no. If anything, iPad 1 should have gotten iOS 6. iOS 5 or iOS 9 with just a one year difference seems too unfair (iPad 1 supported 3 versions of iOS, iPad 2 supported 6). Also, the iPod touch 3rd generation should have gotten iOS 6 as well since it had the exact same hardware as the iPhone 3GS (but then it would have made the iPod touch 4th generation look bad since that model could not support iOS 7 due to its low RAM).
     

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