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iOS 9 was supposed to be "All about iPad"

jonnyb098

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For a release that was supposed to be "All about iPad", the GM sure is shotty in many areas. (I'm on an Air 2) WHERES THE METAL SUPPORT?!?!

Wait till everyone sees:

1. messages randomly wont recognize any keyboard input for a second or how choppy the multitasking menu is.

2. A a nice long delay when swiping back in safari before ANY touch is recognized and when gesturing out from an app thats in a folder (before you can actually tap to go back to the home screen.

3. Dynamic wallpapers bring an Air 2 (and every other device) to its knees with extremely choppy animations everywhere.

4. Music app on iPad is riddled with interface bugs. I'm not talking about the service that everyones debating. Just the app it self. Way too many bugs to even list here. Rotating in "For you" always loses your spot and brings you back to the top....f–ing annoying. Mind you this is on iPads only. The iPhone app is much more polished. The entire app feels like its been written in "non-native" code or something the way things stutter and resize when you rotate.

5. Calendar icon system wide (multitasking, spotlight) shows a generic low-res icons. Whoopsie...someone screwed up there!

6. If you text someone using your iPad who doesn't have an iPhone (green bubbles) spotlight will show their icon but no way to actually message them (no message icon shortcut)

7. Podcast app has ABSOLUTELY ZERO WAY to play a video in full screen. Guess that was another switch some engineer forgot to flip too. Fullscreen video? Who needs it!!!!!

8. Ironically split screen is silky smooth.....But no support for Music.app?!?!?!

Overall certain areas are really smooth and responsive and others are not. Apple is trying to grow iPad sales with still making the engineers treat iPad version of iOs like the step child. How hard is it to just make it freaking smooth!!!!!
 
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Where/when was it supposed to be "all about the iPad"? That said, they've certainly added a number of features that are either exclusive to or are more useful on the iPad, which is generally quite a bit more than usual.
 
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The Apple Marketing Machine can be very challenging to decode. Words cleverly placed so as to create maximum desire for the product while convincing buyers it was made to change their life's forever. Further enhanced by a stage presentation so hyped up... media from all over the world spend thousands just to attend. With a very successful job done of setting customers expectations sky high, there's simply nothing like it. A rather bizarre spectacle indeed. :D
 
C DM said:
Where/when was it supposed to be "all about the iPad"? That said, they've certainly added a number of features that are either exclusive to or are more useful on the iPad, which is generally quite a bit more than usual.
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Go watch the WWDC keynote and the two things the said were "All about iPad" and on the website "performance and stability" are a line item talking about how much smoother animations and responsiveness are in iOS 9.
 
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Go watch the WWDC keynote and the two things the said were "All about iPad" and on the website "performance and stability" are a line item talking about how much smoother animations and responsiveness are in iOS 9.
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Perhaps that as more in reference to some set of iPad specific updates and improvements vs all of iOS 9, given that it's clearly not all about the iPad--and it would be silly to imply that it is as that in a sense gets rid of much of an incentive for other iOS devices to install the update.
 
#3 already is wrong, no dynamic wallpapers dont bring EVERY device to its knees, thats why my iphone 6 does it just fine with its A8 soc while ur A8X ipad "cant"..
 
These types of threads drive me crazy. I'm sure some users have had some or even all of these issues. But I think it's equally clear that most do not. Yet, the issues are held out as universal flaws.

The point of a beta program is to find and squash bugs. I'm sure it's of especial interest to Apple (as it would be to any developer) why a particular issue crops up on one device and not another. If you are the unlucky person, I do feel bad for you. But the presence of a bug on beta, unreleased or even newly released software should not be a surprise to anyone. Rather than condemning the OS in the face of clear evidence that it is just fine for most users, report the bug using the Feedback app. Do a little introspection to see if your usage model (types of apps, how intensely you use the device, etc...) might have something to do with unexpected behavior. Maybe it doesn't, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

It's ok (well, it's not really ok given the NDA) to discuss the issues here. Just don't condemn the entire update based solely on your experience.
 
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These types of threads drive me crazy. I'm sure some users have had some or even all of these issues. But I think it's equally clear that most do not. Yet, the issues are held out as universal flaws.

The point of a beta program is to find and squash bugs. I'm sure it's of especial interest to Apple (as it would be to any developer) why a particular issue crops up on one device and not another. If you are the unlucky person, I do feel bad for you. But the presence of a bug on beta, unreleased or even newly released software should not be a surprise to anyone. Rather than condemning the OS in the face of clear evidence that it is just fine for most users, report the bug using the Feedback app. Do a little introspection to see if your usage model (types of apps, how intensely you use the device, etc...) might have something to do with unexpected behavior. Maybe it doesn't, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

It's ok (well, it's not really ok given the NDA) to discuss the issues here. Just don't condemn the entire update based solely on your experience.
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Podcast app not having a button for full screen video is trivial? The reason here we are with a release that's supposed to be about stability and smoothness and its in some ways worse.

The reason is after all this time are people passing everything off as " oh it's a beta, they'll have it fixed by release" that's been working great. Well here we are at release. Everything I'm referring to is the GM.

Seeing as the majority aren't on the GM that's a pretty ballsy statement to say most aren't having issues.

Inherent flaws are not a "it's just you" problem. It's a "just you not noticing it" problem.
 
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Podcast app not having a button for full screen video is trivial? The reason here we are with a release that's supposed to be about stability and smoothness and its in some ways worse.

The reason is after all this time are people passing everything off as " oh it's a beta, they'll have it fixed by release" that's been working great. Well here we are at release. Everything I'm referring to is the GM.
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As I said in another thread, the lack of a full screen button may have been a choice, not a bug. It just is a choice you don't agree with.
 
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Podcast app not having a button for full screen video is trivial? The reason here we are with a release that's supposed to be about stability and smoothness and its in some ways worse.
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It is trivial because the stock podcasts app has always been crap, and there are many much better third party podcasts apps available (PocketCasts for example)
 
gwhizkids said:
These types of threads drive me crazy. I'm sure some users have had some or even all of these issues. But I think it's equally clear that most do not. Yet, the issues are held out as universal flaws.

The point of a beta program is to find and squash bugs. I'm sure it's of especial interest to Apple (as it would be to any developer) why a particular issue crops up on one device and not another. If you are the unlucky person, I do feel bad for you. But the presence of a bug on beta, unreleased or even newly released software should not be a surprise to anyone. Rather than condemning the OS in the face of clear evidence that it is just fine for most users, report the bug using the Feedback app. Do a little introspection to see if your usage model (types of apps, how intensely you use the device, etc...) might have something to do with unexpected behavior. Maybe it doesn't, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

It's ok (well, it's not really ok given the NDA) to discuss the issues here. Just don't condemn the entire update based solely on your experience.
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Given the public beta nature of these releases these days, seems like NDA wouldn't really apply.
 
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#3 already is wrong, no dynamic wallpapers dont bring EVERY device to its knees, thats why my iphone 6 does it just fine with its A8 soc while ur A8X ipad "cant"..
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Try using a dynamic wallpaper and then going to app switcher with a few apps open...
 
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As I said in another thread, the lack of a full screen button may have been a choice, not a bug. It just is a choice you don't agree with.
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Well it plays full screen on an iPhone. So please, stop with the excuses. What possible reason that is logical and sound would they have full screen video on iPhone but not on iPad ??

Please , enlighten us all to this smart choice they made .
 
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Well it plays full screen on an iPhone. So please, stop with the excuses. What possible reason that is logical and sound would they have full screen video on iPhone but not on iPad ??

Please , enlighten us all to this smart choice they made .
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Did I say it was a smart choice? No. I said it was a choice, just one you don't like. That doesn't mean Apple doesn't have a defensible reason for that choice. Note: "defensible" is not the equivalent of good or virtuous. It just means they can advance a non-nonsensical reason for it, such as aspect ratio.
 
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I don't use dynamic wallpapers because they're unattractive. Therefore, I have not enabled one just to try to make the device lag.

Are you actually wanting to use a dynamic wallpaper or are you trying to get the device to lag? Not that the lag is justified, but don't use a dynamic wallpaper if you're unhappy with the device's performance while one is enabled.
 
iPad mini 2 here, performs like total garbage. I know this is about the Air 2, but really, I don't doubt anything this guy says. The app switcher is the absolute worst of it though. Entering and exiting the switcher is like 20FPS if there are 3 or more apps in it. HORRIBLE. Yes, this iPad is 2 years old but usually these kinds of problems don't occur until at least the third or fourth update. Even the iPad 2/3 perform things smoother on iOS 9 because Apple has used the translucency so poorly and just way too much. This iPad is still for sale after all!!

Opening and exiting apps is sluggish (delay) and then frames are skipped and everything is just so choppy. I feel like I have to wait for my iPad now rather than it waiting for me to do another task. iOS 8.4.1 wasn't perfect either, also kinda cruddy. (Even on clean installs! I probably did 6 or so clean installs over the course of iOS 8, hardly anything was ever affected) iOS 7.1.2 wasn't even perfect. Spotlight had that huge jump at the end, control center still has its random things that it simply doesn't agree with. Keyboard has never rotated smoothly, App Store has never rotated smoothly, Siri always kinda was iffy, etc etc... iPad has been left in the dust in my opinion. Apple simply doesn't care about the performance or experience anymore. But for God's sake, I don't know how this app switcher made it out of beta. It's just sooo bad. 6 plus still can't do it smoothly, (I have seen my friend's plus, he said it performs smooth as butter but it definitely IS NOT) yet the iPhone 4 on iOS 7 is quite okay with the app switcher.
 
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Here's what I'm talking about on iPad. If you have a friend who DOES NOT have an iPhone, you can still text but in the spotlight area there should be a message bubble to tap like there used to be.......and look at that nice pixelated generic calendar icon.
 

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I think the issue with app switcher is due to the blurring effect. But let's not get started on that lol.
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Not completely, surprisingly!! My iPad still chokes up a bit with reduce transparency disabled! I think it's due to the dumb ways the apps in the background zoom in with the app you're going into. Sliding away apps is sluggish without reduce transparency, and it is fine with it, though... I just don't think it is acceptable how Apple has devices that THEY'RE SELLING completely choking with the App Switcher. Super old android phones run their app switchers perfectly fine I'm sure, and the iPhone 4 on iOS 7.1.2 is fine as well. Why do apples newest devices suffer with this?? Pitiful.
 
Either most people don't see the lag or my phone is defective. I'm going to restore as new when the GM is released. If I see the rotation bug or the lag I'm going to demand a replacement phone. I've gotten used to the lag, but I've had it with the rotation bug.
 
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