iOS 9 ..Why Apple???

Discussion in 'iOS 9' started by Old geek 959, Sep 17, 2015.

  1. Old geek 959 macrumors member

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    iOS 9 is a day old now (exclude the Beta's) and the reaction is somehow negative. most of users complain about:
    1- laggy performance
    2- App crashes
    3- slow compare to 8.4
    (Facebook,Macrumors forum, Twitter, comments on websites)
    So this is not new all OS's launch is terrible at some point BUT when it comes to Apple I think we should point somethings:
    1- There is so many Beta's before the official launch. and almost millions of people try those builds so why there is SO much problems?
    2- If android launch a new OS and it face the problems I mentioned above we my give it an excuse because Android is running on thousands of devices old and new from Samsung, LG, HTC, Lenovo, Moto and an army of Chinese small companies. so the optimization is some how impossible you need extra developer hand to expand the optimization and tune it to the devices he make. but when it come to Apple.. there is only less than 20 devices planned to support iOS9 and they cant optimize it well to work! is it that's hard to test the OS in 20 devices?
    3- Whats the different between iOS9 and iOS8? basically both the same with more features and updated apps and tasks! so the core of the OS is almost the same, Why the bugs and the lags?
    4- Apple always say we are the best because we make the software and the hardware. but whats the point of that when your system is just as "buggy" on its launch as Google android on Xiaomi devices?
    Am Apple's biggest fan but I really start to think Apple should start thinking about hiring Scott Forstall back. I used OS 2,3,4 and never saw problems like what I saw in 7,8,9.
     
  2. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

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    Ah, the scientific accuracy of reading 20 comments on social media to determine that the OS is JUST SO BUGGY. We all know how accurate social media are about the people happy with something replying way more than the people who GRR ARRGH THIS ISN'T WORKING RIGHT WHY DON'T YOU WORK RIGHT? DAMN YOUSE TO HELL!
     
  3. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Based on reviews and general media/pubic reactions, it seems that it's all more positive than negative. It's more negative in forums and places of that nature--which are by their nature are places where people come for help and/or to complain, so accordingly they would be mostly full of more negative items than anything else, again, simply because of the nature of those places and what people often use them for.
     
  4. Grayburn macrumors 68000

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    I've got no problem with it and had all the beta versions installed and the final version for me is an improvement on them as it should be.

    Just because millions install the betas it doesn't mean there will be no problems. Many people report bugs and yet some still exist.
     
  5. lagwagon Suspended

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    My favourite is #2 in his claim that brand new Android OS's work on thousands of phones. Isn't the truth quite the opposite? Most android phones can't update to the latest versions. And if you did by rooting it (which most users wouldn't even know about) it's in most cases far worse.

    For #3, that's pretty self explanatory. New features means more things running behind the scenes. The core UI has nothing to do with it. Take the new Proactive feature for example. It's tracking and learning all the time when you use specific apps, talk to specific people, where you are and go on specific days and times. So that it can suggest all those things to you at those times and days. All that adds a big amount to what it is doing in the background vs previous iOS versions. And that's just one example.
     
  6. CTHarrryH macrumors 65816

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    Gee it took 24 hours for this post to come out. I think it only took 18 hours for IOS 8 and less for 7, etc.
    One year from now it will appear again. And after the 25 one will appear on the iPhone forum stating exactly the same thing except in phone terms.
     
  7. boast macrumors 65816

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    iOS 9 is one of my favorite releases running on my iPad and Phone wonderfully.
     
  8. Resist macrumors 68030

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    I also don't understand why with each Apple iOS release there seems to be issues. With all the in house testing and released Beta testing, you'd think bugs would be worked out PRIOR to release. Any issues after the release can't possibly be a surprise for Apple, because if they are then clearly their programmers are over paid. The hardware and software are Apple's and yet it doesn't "just work".
     
  9. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Each x.0 release is a big undertaking so it will see more issues than many other smaller update releases that are not only smaller but also improve things from the initial releases making those releases look that much worse in comparison. It's pretty much like that with any software (or even hardware or even products in general) and has been for years. It's not great or anything like that, but just more or less the nature of the beast.
     
  10. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    Why would Apple want to force this yearly merry-go-round of pap onto their customers though?
    They release some crappy software and then spend 12 months trying to fix it, with varying success, only to start again seemingly from scratch the following September. If something plainly isn't as good as the outgoing version then why on earth release it?
     
  11. C DM macrumors Westmere

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    Because they need to get something new out with new hardware and in general, because that's what the consumer wants/expects. Plenty of decisions have a lot of marketing built into them. Seems like their sales are doing more than fine when it comes to iOS devices (at the very least certainly iPhones), so not as much intensive for them to re-evaluate that, especially when you factor in that a lot of these issues aren't things that the average users (who represent the majority of their customers) would really notice or care about.
     
  12. MH01 macrumors G4

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    In relation to #2 : I wish a number of my devices were running now iOS 6 or iOS 7 still, cause they have awful performance under iOS 8. Have an old htc one, it's runs a lot smoother, though not the latest OS. I'm more inclined to have an OS built for the device and deliver smooth operation l than the latest and greatest that is almost unusable compared to how the device was under the OS it came with. Going to upgrade my iPad 3, cause geez it cannot get worse than iOS 8... If it does its gonna be turned into an expansive picture frame
     
  13. BSben macrumors 6502a

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    Sorry, I can't take this serious. You are using some social media rants and say things like 'most users complain'. I am a user (and have been for a while) and don't agree with those views at all, and I know many more people who agree with me. My advise to you is to just get some Android phone, and if you get tired of it, you can recycle it at any Apple Store free of charge!
     
  14. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    It bugs me why performance on older devices must suffer across the whole platform just because of one or two new features that you might never use. Why are web browsing, and opening apps - core features - much slower just because of a new feature here and there when the basic o/s looks identical to the last version? I agree that I'd rather have the o/s that a phone shipped with. It may be lacking in new features but the core features work as well as the day you purchased the device.
     
  15. AustinIllini macrumors demi-god

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    Glad you wrote it in BOLD, otherwise I couldn't read it.

    I love iOS 9
     
  16. Command macrumors regular

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    Bottom line is, despite maybe trends of issues with Facebook (for example), it's stemming from other variables. The devices are all the same, except model variances, but the configurations are nearly limitless. With all the applications and add ons and 3rd party keyboards and applications that interact with other applications, etc. Yes, there are beta releases, as with any software - but that's why there are many releases as well as subsequent updates. Dynamics change along the way. I have an iPhone 5s but I can practically guarantee it's different than yours (whomever is reading this). So, sure... some configurations fall through the cracks. The big thing to consider is Apple has several methods of taking feedback. Albeit, this not being the most direct route...

    Here's one that I like the most. Many people (sadly) think Apple develops the Facebook App... and Twitter, Snapchat, KiK, etc. as with so many in the App Store. They're ALL 3rd party. Their development has little to do with iOS from Apple's perspective. Sometimes, just sometimes, it's in their court, too.
     
  17. ckurt25 macrumors 6502a

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    I think it's great. Running on my iPhone 6+ and iPad Mini 3.

    As someone pointed out above, the comparison with Android is a joke. I'd be willing to bet after just over 24 hours more devices are running iOS 9 right now than the latest version of Android.

    Also, don't forget people are 10X more likely to complain about something than to tell people about a positive experience.
     
  18. The Game 161 macrumors G5

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    is this a troll post? as IOS 9 has been great for me and many seem very happy with it
     
  19. Nicky G macrumors 6502a

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    I'm happy! Multitasking on iPad Air 2 is da shiiizzzzzyyyyyyy
     
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    I can't justify the purchase, but I sure wish I could for this alone.
     
  22. MH01 macrumors G4

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    That's what annoys me the most. The iPad 3 I use just for web surfing , and it's a horrible experience compared an iPad Air .

    Let's face it, such poor performance results in people upgrading hardware . Used to happen to me all the time with PCs.
     
  23. Altis macrumors 68010

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    This is something that bothers me, too. Since 7.0, everything involving navigating the OS and between menus is sluggish (granted it isn't as bad since 7.1, but that took 6 months). Even the keyboard (stock) can be pretty laggy if you use it quickly enough.

    The iPhone 6 has so much more power than a 3GS, for example, yet on iOS 7/8 it's slower at some things involving navigating the OS. Quite strange, indeed.

    To date, the fastest iOS device I've used in terms of navigating the OS and typing is the iPhone 5 on iOS 6 (5 may have been better but I can't really recall). It's silly fast by comparison.
     
  24. sunking101 macrumors 603

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    I could understand if each new version of iOS looked completely different but other than iOS7 they have mostly looked the same with just the odd new feature. So why not just add the new feature to iOS 8.4.1 and trundle along until the next massive aesthetic change? That way, presumably, system-wide lag and a whole host of other nasties wouldn't be introduced.

    Sure, have a cut-off point where older devices stop receiving updates but these 'new' versions of iOS are invariably a bag of spanners.
     
  25. newellj macrumors 601

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    On his #3, he's wrong in any case. All the actual head-to-head tests show 9 being more or less comparable to 8, depending on the device (some are faster, some are slower).
     

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