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There is no such thing as security from this sort of thing. For every programmer that writes a security program that is supposed to keep our information secure, there is a hacker out there that can decode/hack the program to steal what ever they want.

Apple could come out with a patch today to fix the current problem, but tomorrow someone else finds a way to hack it.

There is no such thing as security.
Let's make excuses for Apple and accept hacking/theft from our Apple products as the norm...
 
I'm a long-time Apple user - and I've near had enough. I have no longer have faith in Apple to protect my data. Tim Cook can ramble on about privacy all he wants, but we all know that software has never been Apple's strength. It may look pretty, but vulnerabilities like these are becoming all too common. Android has had its fair share of problems too, but I just trust the engineers at Google to not let stuff like this happen. The last major flaw I recall from Android was that random number generator that wasn't implemented correctly and allowed some bitcoin wallets to be hijacked. That was hardly as widespread as this flaw. It's so frustrating.
2 seconds of searching gave me this. There is no such thing as completely secure software, especially not today so early in the field. Software engineering is still in the wild west days, with no enforced standards. Other engineering fields have to have third party inspectors check their work - software goes out when a lone developer feels like releasing it. It is good in ways - as we innovate faster, but bad in that security levels are all over the place.
 
There is no such thing as security from this sort of thing. For every programmer that writes a security program that is supposed to keep our information secure, there is a hacker out there that can decode/hack the program to steal what ever they want.

Apple could come out with a patch today to fix the current problem, but tomorrow someone else finds a way to hack it.

There is no such thing as security.

The main point I see is Apple was given 6 months to fix this and it still exists as a vulnerability in their code base as of today. So what if they fix it today, it darn well should have been fixed 3 months ago and not required a media blasting for Apple to get it done!
 
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I'm a long-time Apple user - and I've near had enough. I have no longer have faith in Apple to protect my data. Tim Cook can ramble on about privacy all he wants, but we all know that software has never been Apple's strength. It may look pretty, but vulnerabilities like these are becoming all too common. Android has had its fair share of problems too, but I just trust the engineers at Google to not let stuff like this happen. The last major flaw I recall from Android was that random number generator that wasn't implemented correctly and allowed some bitcoin wallets to be hijacked. That was hardly as widespread as this flaw. It's so frustrating.

That is smart. Google is all about privacy. :rolleyes:
 
I imagine if this was found in the linux ecosystem, it wouldve been patched well within 6 months. Linux is looking great.


Linux is good, but things like heartbleed, poodle, and shellshock were out there, in some cases for years, without anyone noticing - although they were fixed much quicker. This is not to excuse Apple, but nothing is really safe.

OS X, Linux, Android, Windows etc all need to step up their security efforts.
 
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Fantastic, an article that tempts me to shut off my computer and mobile device then spend the next few months/years paranoid and awaiting news of a patch. Way to go, Apple!
Dude, don't forget your tinfoil hat... Why do people scream the sky is falling every time an article like this is posted? There are no known app that uses this yet. Worry then... LOL
 
So unless one installs a malicious app, this wouldn't be an issue, right? I know the malicious ones aren't going to call themselves such, but if I understand the nature of this vulnerability, it can't be exploited absent the user installing the malicious app to begin with. Do I have that right?
 
Linux is good, but things like heartbleed, poodle, and shellshock were out there, in some cases for years, without anyone noticing - although they were fixed much quicker. This is not to excuse Apple, but nothing is really safe.

OS X, Linux, Android, Windows etc all need to step up their security efforts.

Oh I totally understand. I'm sure the NSA and others knew about heartbleed etc before the rest of us, and nothing is completely safe.... but at least when these things become publically known/found, the opensource community fixes things quickly like you said.
 
So, you still have to download and install something with your username and password before you're at risk? How is this radically different than anything else?
 
I'm a long-time Apple user - and I've near had enough. I have no longer have faith in Apple to protect my data. Tim Cook can ramble on about privacy all he wants, but we all know that software has never been Apple's strength. It may look pretty, but vulnerabilities like these are becoming all too common. Android has had its fair share of problems too, but I just trust the engineers at Google to not let stuff like this happen. The last major flaw I recall from Android was that random number generator that wasn't implemented correctly and allowed some bitcoin wallets to be hijacked. That was hardly as widespread as this flaw. It's so frustrating.

I call BS. You forget Google pwns all your data

Oh and friendly reminder, the flaws that exist in 40% of a all Android phones because they NEVER GET UPDATED trump this. Google's engineers aren't fixing it, they just keep rolling new versions of Android (That don't make it to 95% of devices older than a year).

Go for it! :) Android 5.0.x made it to 0.8% of devices. :p

https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html?utm_source=suzunone
KitKat 4.4 is now 18 months old and on 40% of all Android phones YAY innovation!
 
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It would likely have been patched in a few days and work arounds in a couple hours.
Has apple released a patch for the iMessage issue that was unveiled the other week? I wouldn't say that we'll see a fix in a couple of hours.
 
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So does this mean we all have to change our iCloud and Apple ID passwords?

Or should we stop using iCloud and Apple IDs altogether?
The attack can be carried out from malicious apps. This implies that so long as you have that malicious app installed AND the vulnerability exists, then changing your passwords won't help - if they are stored on the device. The other implication is that app data is also exposed, which means that offline (on-device) store is also at risk.

Therefore the better suggestion is - be careful of what you install onto your devices.
 
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