iOS Contradictions

jpgr15

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If I open the clock app from the control center while my phone is locked, it opens, no problem. If I ask Siri to open the same app while the phone is locked, she tells me I need to enter my passcode.

Bug or feature? Any other contradictions/discrepancies out there?
 

dwfaust

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If I open the clock app from the control center while my phone is locked, it opens, no problem. If I ask Siri to open the same app while the phone is locked, she tells me I need to enter my passcode.

Bug or feature? Any other contradictions/discrepancies out there?
How do you wake your phone up to launch the Control Center? Are you using a finger that is registered with TouchID?
 
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If I open the clock app from the control center while my phone is locked, it opens, no problem. If I ask Siri to open the same app while the phone is locked, she tells me I need to enter my passcode.

Bug or feature? Any other contradictions/discrepancies out there?
The Control Center can open the apps that are on it. Siri doesn't. You can also turn control center off on the lockscreen.
 

jpgr15

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How do you wake your phone up to launch the Control Center? Are you using a finger that is registered with TouchID?
No, just the power button on the side. The phone is locked when I launch control center.
 
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jpgr15

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The Control Center can open the apps that are on it. Siri doesn't. You can also turn control center off on the lockscreen.
Seems silly. Why would the clock app need a passcode with one method of opening it but not another? Either it should be protected or not.

I don't want to turn control center off as I like it and don't really care to lock down my clock. I just don't care for the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
 
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wchigo

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Seems silly. Why would the clock app need a passcode with one method of opening it but not another? Either it should be protected or not.

I don't want to turn control center off as I like it and don't really care to lock down my clock. I just don't care for the hypocrisy of the whole thing.
Just a guess but it might be a security feature. Since Siri can be used to open basically any app installed on your phone, perhaps putting in the passcode request is a way to prevent people from potentially by-passing security protocols and opening apps that wouldn't normally be accessible when the phone is locked and that aren't listed in CC. On the other hand, CC only has four default apps that can't be changed so they might deem that as less of a security hazard?

This is purely conjecture. I would assume it'd be possible to code Siri in such a way that she could open those 4 control centre apps without requiring a passcode, but it's likely they felt it wasn't worth the time and effort to do so.
 

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Just a guess but it might be a security feature. Since Siri can be used to open basically any app installed on your phone, perhaps putting in the passcode request is a way to prevent people from potentially by-passing security protocols and opening apps that wouldn't normally be accessible when the phone is locked and that aren't listed in CC. On the other hand, CC only has four default apps that can't be changed so they might deem that as less of a security hazard?

This is purely conjecture. I would assume it'd be possible to code Siri in such a way that she could open those 4 control centre apps without requiring a passcode, but it's likely they felt it wasn't worth the time and effort to do so.
It's fairly similar when it comes to airplane mode that can be enabled from CC from the lock screen but requires passcode when done from Siri.
 

jpgr15

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Just a guess but it might be a security feature. Since Siri can be used to open basically any app installed on your phone, perhaps putting in the passcode request is a way to prevent people from potentially by-passing security protocols and opening apps that wouldn't normally be accessible when the phone is locked and that aren't listed in CC. On the other hand, CC only has four default apps that can't be changed so they might deem that as less of a security hazard?

This is purely conjecture. I would assume it'd be possible to code Siri in such a way that she could open those 4 control centre apps without requiring a passcode, but it's likely they felt it wasn't worth the time and effort to do so.
It's fairly similar when it comes to airplane mode that can be enabled from CC from the lock screen but requires passcode when done from Siri.
Airplane mode is another good example.

This is going to sound totally lame, I know, but the only reason I noticed is because I don't carry an electric toothbrush in my travel bag. So when I brush my teeth while on business, I like to make sure I brush for a full two minutes.

Sometimes in the morning, if my hands aren't free, I'll ask Siri to open the stopwatch. At that point, it's just annoying to enter my passcode/TouchID.

Just a minor grievance, I know, but still annoying.
 

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In a way this makes sense. Accessing the cc while in lock mode makes it much easier to manipulate the phone if it's stolen; an all or nothing proposition. With Siri basically can control the phone and get into other areas so it makes sense to require a password even on the lock screen.
 

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Airplane mode is another good example.

This is going to sound totally lame, I know, but the only reason I noticed is because I don't carry an electric toothbrush in my travel bag. So when I brush my teeth while on business, I like to make sure I brush for a full two minutes.

Sometimes in the morning, if my hands aren't free, I'll ask Siri to open the stopwatch. At that point, it's just annoying to enter my passcode/TouchID.

Just a minor grievance, I know, but still annoying.
You can ask Siri to set a timer instead of using the stopwatch.
 

AddisonIII

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Just a guess but it might be a security feature. Since Siri can be used to open basically any app installed on your phone, perhaps putting in the passcode request is a way to prevent people from potentially by-passing security protocols and opening apps that wouldn't normally be accessible when the phone is locked and that aren't listed in CC. On the other hand, CC only has four default apps that can't be changed so they might deem that as less of a security hazard?

This is purely conjecture. I would assume it'd be possible to code Siri in such a way that she could open those 4 control centre apps without requiring a passcode, but it's likely they felt it wasn't worth the time and effort to do so.
I'm wondering why Siri would even bother to ask unless of course you used the security features built into the devise. If I understood correct the OP doesn't use those features.
 
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