Not with the OS though.
Fedora used to have a Fedora Core and a Fedora Extras repo (Thats where the old name came from, they merged in 7), yet the extras packages weren't considered part of the Fedora Core OS.
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Not with the OS though.
Fedora used to have a Fedora Core and a Fedora Extras repo (Thats where the old name came from, they merged in 7), yet the extras packages weren't considered part of the Fedora Core OS.
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If you can download it from Ubuntu official repos, it's with the OS to me, as much as downloading anything from Apple Software Update is part of OSX.
For most consumer machines out there, I'd say that Linux just works is not an unreasonable thing to say. But I pretty much agree with the guy who claimed to be os agnostic, no os is perfect and everyone has its pros and cons.
http://blog.quantcast.com/quantcast/2010/09/august-2010-mobile-os-share.html
Love how the pro iOS was posted and not this..
At least appleinsider can acknowledge the other side.
Love how the pro iOS was posted and not this..
At least appleinsider can acknowledge the other side.
So you consider iLife to be part of the OS, even though its clearly an Application suite?
I can update iWork through Software Update, does that make it part of Mac OSX.
Microsoft Update lets you install Windows Live, does that make Live part of Windows? Even though its not installed in any version of the OS.
No, I don't. You obviously don't understand how Ubuntu works. The Restricted repository is part of the official distribution. The Live CD image is limited it what can be packaged on it due to space constraint, the rest is served up after the initial installation. This image doesn't even contain everything that's in the Main repository, which wouldn't even fit on a DVD.
Everything that is part of the official repository is part of the distribution. It all "comes with the OS". You don't need to change/add anything to enable the restricted repository, it's done for you during installation.
This isn't some extra. Again, you're just trying to not be wrong and trying to find some hidden loophole. The fact is you are dead wrong this time too. Just admit it and move or are you just "making conversation" again ?
At least find a subject you're informed about if you want to just drive up your post count, sheesh.
There are so many ignorant comments going on here, I just had to register to say something. Anyway, thanks for the laughs.
In Ubuntu, go to Synaptic, ubuntu-restricted-extras, mark for installation and download. In PCLinuxOS, multimedia codecs are already installed...just a couple of linux distro examples
So you consider iLife to be part of the OS, even though its clearly an Application suite?
I can update iWork through Software Update, does that make it part of Mac OSX.
Microsoft Update lets you install Windows Live, does that make Live part of Windows? Even though its not installed in any version of the OS.
No, not really. iLife could be arguably part of OS X since it comes with every new Mac, but that's a different discussion.
If you buy a printer and don't have the drivers, you can download them from Apple Software Update, or the same nVidia drivers you were talking about before. That is part of the OS.
There are thousands of applications you can download from Ubuntu Software Center that obviously are not part of Ubuntu.
I meant the nVidia drivers, sorry if I didn't express myself good enough. English is obviously not my mother tongue.
The comparison with Apple Software Update sure didn't help, I was meaning for instance the security updates, these are part of OS X even if they are not included in the DVD. Things like Aperture, FCS, or for that matter any program Apple sells are not the OS, of course, even if you can update them via Apple Software Update.
Hope now I made my point more clear.
Interesting numbers. Steve Jobs himself dropped some interesting numbers in his presentation: http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker.php?id=ASBG20100903221300
Think Apple is trying too hard to play the numbers game? It's a game they're bound to lose?
Think Apple is trying too hard to play the numbers game? It's a game they're bound to lose?
Funny how this information hasn't been posted as a front page article on macurmors yet:
"Apple's iOS Dips in Internet Traffic Market Share, Android Soars"
http://www.dailytech.com/Apples+iOS...c+Market+Share+Android+Soars/article19546.htm
"Apple's iOS Dips in Internet Traffic Market Share, Android Soars"
http://www.dailytech.com/Apples+iOS...c+Market+Share+Android+Soars/article19546.htm
Probably because such a post would be more suitable for this site:
http://www.fandroidrumors.com
You'll note iOS still has double the traffic of the North American market and certainly far higher worldwide where Android's presence is more minuscule (since they don't have Apple's U.S. single-carrier exclusivity giving them a sales advantage).
So you're saying that Apple and iOS is only relevant to this site when it's pro-Apple? Not important to discuss anything that isn't showing the brand in a favorable light? There's a term for that I believe.
And the second part of your post is laughable because total usage isn't nearly as important as the trend, which clearly shows Android OS usage gaining massive popularity.
Full disclosure: I've been an iPhone owner since Day 1, don't have any plans to switch to an Android-based phone, just can't stand the fanboyism for the iPhone when there are clearly things that make the Android OS superior to iOS.
What I'm saying is news about Android is not typically worthy of front-page exposure on an Apple-based site like this.
Yes there is. The term is relevance.
And there are plenty of websites out there to read about the "clear awesomeness" of Android, if that's your perspective. This isn't really one of them.
FWIW, there are clearly things that make iOS superior to Android, which aren't really covered in detail on this site either.
Oh, and griping on an Apple users site about Apple "fanboyism" is absurd. Go visit an Android fan site if you want Android fanboyism.
My Ubuntu installation was dead easy. In fact, it recognized my Logitech wireless KB/mouse combo although XP didnt.
But when I did add a directly unsupported device (USB Wifi adapter) it was a PITA. Much text file editing, and 2 or 3 compilations, but most importantly, about 6 hours later, I finally got it working.
It doesn't help that I have a 64 bit system, for which Linux support is poor (I am talking mostly about drivers here).