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Really stop lying to yourself. Android is a powerful mobile OS that can be adapted to many situations. Its not going anywhere for a while. Kindle will not outsell it as kindles direct competition the Nook (an android device). Android will save people money in the future. Why right your own set of code for a cash register when you just build it on top of android.

It will be a shocker for you when it happens.
 
350k phones sold a day omg!

Well, more like 175K sold... another 175K given away free. :D

Really stop lying to yourself. Android is a powerful mobile OS that can be adapted to many situations.

You should tell that to my wife who has an Android phone and finds that it doesn't really even seem to be well adapted to phone-related situations. She's constantly having problems with it, particularly with freeze-ups and crashing.

I think it's more truthful to phrase your sentence like this. "Android is a powerful mobile OS that can be shoehorned into many situations but can do none of them very well."
 
This is an illogical comparison and does not give us any real information to go on.

Why?

They are comparing iOS Devices.

I don't think RIM and all the rest should be compared to iPad and iPod touch devices.

This is playing with the numbers.

Why the heck _wouldn't_ you count those? You can use apps across all the devices, which is where the power of the Apple ecosystem comes into play. Once the Apple TV can support apps, that will be counted too. Whether or not you can make a phone call on the device is absolutely 100% irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it. That's where the benefit of market reach comes into play. More devices sold = more developers = more benefit to customers = more devices sold = more developers ... etc. It's a great little self-sustaining model.
 
My friend returned his HTC Desire HD and bought the iPhone 4. Android really cannot satisfy many users.
 
This is an illogical comparison and does not give us any real information to go on.

Why?

They are comparing iOS Devices.

I don't think RIM and all the rest should be compared to iPad and iPod touch devices.

This is playing with the numbers.

What?

Then Android numbers should be disallowed from any discussion, because the fact that 200 devices made by 25 different companies containing 10 different versions of Android are not the same thing or related in any relative way. Android phones from the same manufacturers are barely comparable to each other.
 
Why the heck _wouldn't_ you count those? You can use apps across all the devices, which is where the power of the Apple ecosystem comes into play. Once the Apple TV can support apps, that will be counted too. Whether or not you can make a phone call on the device is absolutely 100% irrelevant. The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it. That's where the benefit of market reach comes into play. More devices sold = more developers = more benefit to customers = more devices sold = more developers ... etc. It's a great little self-sustaining model.

I disagree.
"The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it." ---If it cant make a call its a different device PERIOD.

What?

Then Android numbers should be disallowed from any discussion, because the fact that 200 devices made by 25 different companies containing 10 different versions of Android are not the same thing or related in any relative way. Android phones from the same manufacturers are barely comparable to each other.

Those are all phones. By your logic, you prove my point. By your logic there are 10 different iOS devices , are you saying that THEY -"are not the same thing or related in any relative way" ?


PS : I love my iPhone but it is not my leader. Apple is cool but I don't jump up and down for any and every Pro- Apple story I can drink down. This chart is BS...IMHO
 
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I'm sure this data will be coming to a Keynote near you.

The trend is your friend, and unless Apple can turn it around, the trend is clearly moving toward a marginalization of iOS.

Lol, reading your post is always hilarious ...
The Crusader against Apple fight his Holy War :D
 
Android will be on more things by the end of the year. iOS is restricted to apple products. But we are already seeing the creativity that people are using android for. Being that it is open source and easy to modify and write on we have many things. Android now powers eReaders, TVs, Video games, and even a microwave

I would add FORTUNATELY iOS is restricted to Apple products ... :rolleyes:

Android open source ? Yes, yes, you can bet on it :D
 
Wow I didn't expect that. Most of my friends who are android fanboys respect the iPhone somewhat but not the iPad. :confused:
 
I don't think that they should include the ipod touch. There is no android equivalent. iOS has been out longer too, they will have previous market saturation (android released october 2008 more than a year after iOS). We need to look at the growth numbers.

I like how they can track individual users (scares me).


As mentioned before, iPhone has continually been compared to Android as platform rather than manufacturer's phone to phone. If that is the way people want to play than they must comparing ALL iOS devices to all Android devices because you are now comparing OS platforms to OS platforms. One reason is that it offers developers a better metric for them when evaluating what their potential ROI will be when they release an app. When releasing an app for iOS, it is accessible by iPhones, iPods, and iPads. Kind of a no-brainer way to measure in my book.
 
I disagree.
"The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it." ---If it cant make a call its a different device PERIOD.



Those are all phones. By your logic, you prove my point. By your logic there are 10 different iOS devices , are you saying that THEY -"are not the same thing or related in any relative way" ?


PS : I love my iPhone but it is not my leader. Apple is cool but I don't jump up and down for any and every Pro- Apple story I can drink down. This chart is BS...IMHO

You are creating an artificial distinction between the products. It doesn't matter to a potential developer because they know if they release to iOS, it's going to go on ALL iOS products but maybe not all ALL android products. Certainly not to a tablet. This is what the article is focusing on. You are very narrowly looking at one data point. And even the construction of your argument for the interpretation of that data point is flaw when you decide to compare one manufacture of iOS to all manufacturer's of Android. If HTC can only sell only a few units of an Android phone, then they may drop the platform and look somewhere else for a better os. (Not saying HTC is in that boat. I know they sell a bunch... just a thought experiment). to only one feature.

It's NOT about Android phone vs. iphone and not iphone products. It's about platform vs. platform.
 
Most of the phones running android within the last year and a half can run 90% of the apps available on the Market. And most of the handsets are great for their use, rather it be budget smartphone: Optimus 1 family or highend: Droid line or Keyboard: G2 by htc. Developers are flocking to android because it is growing faster then iOS.

Versus IOS devices that can run 100% of the apps?

I'd like to see your numbers as well, as honeycomb is supposed to be where it's headed, and last I checked, there weren't record numbers of developers flocking to that iteration of the OS.
 
I disagree.
"The ONLY thing that matters in these kind of numbers is whether or not you can run an application on it." ---If it cant make a call its a different device PERIOD.

What difference does it being a phone make? If Mac OS was the most popular OS on laptops, would that make any difference? I guess it would be a cool talking point, but the fact would remain that Windows is still more popular overall.

Android having a larger percentage of phone penetration (versus OS penetration) is a similar figure. Cool talking point, maybe, but absolutely useless as an actual data point.

On the points that matter (OS penetration, individual device sales, developer revenue, available software), iOS is ahead.
 
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Any proof, or just randomly spouting opinions?

I'm not sure you would describe it as "caning" but Android phones comfortably outsold the iPhone last year.

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I'm not sure you would describe it as "caning" but Android phones comfortably outsold the iPhone last year.

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That's not at all what's at discussion in this thread. We're talking OS penetration, not phones sold. The statement was made that although iOS is comfortably in the lead in the US, that it's behind in the rest of the world. Given the closeness of the phone units sold, I'd be _VERY_ surprised if iOS had a lower penetration than Android.
 
I'm sure this data will be coming to a Keynote near you.

The trend is your friend, and unless Apple can turn it around, the trend is clearly moving toward a marginalization of iOS.

hey FOW back on track!.. Apple's about to fall; profits are down, market-share falling, iPad's left in stores, share price collapsing.... you saw it all first!
 
Amazon wil release a kindle phone around the time android is being abandoned by people tired of all the malware and viruses on their phones.

iOS and Kindle OS will have the top market shares.
 
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