iOS vs Android -- Apple did not learn lesson with Windows

I'd be happy if iOS is like Mac os today. I have no problem find anything for snow leopard and find it superior to windows.

 

I think developers will go where the money is. Right now it's IOS.

If Google doesn't curtail their fragmentation issue I don't see it over taking IOS.

 

Apple now rely on the paying public buying their products purely because they are apple!!1..
Its been a year now and still no new phone!!...yet the competition have gone sailing by,dual-core,3D,1080p video,etc etc,...Yet they still seem to think they know best,i use a Imac and a macbook pro,but iv just invested a lot of money in new servers etc for my company,all WINDOWS!!,if the software was available for OSX i may have gone to apple,but sadly no!!!...will they ever learn???....i doubt it very much!!

 

I am not so sure you are right. I just talked to a friend today who moved from iOS to Android and wants to move back to iOS because it "just works". He has had stability issues with his Android phone and is tired of dealing with it. That is what happens when you move an OS to lots of different types of hardware.. it is harder to make sure it is stable on all platforms. How many people really "like" windows or just use it because they have to? In the mobile market I think you will see more people hading back to iPhone/iOS because the number of people who really want to "tinker" with a phone is not that large. A phone is a device where people want it to "just work".

 

Damn... OP joined macrumors in 2002!

Whatever he says he has my respect as a serious macrumors elder

 

As long as the platform is still supported, what does it matter? I'm not a share holder or anything so it doesn't matter to me how many iPhones they sell, all I care is how good the product is and how well supported it is by 3rd parties.

Btw, I don't see android keeping their number one position, I feel that windows phone will actually surpass them eventually. Windows platform is much smoother and more polished than android and with windows 8 having a similar ui I can see people going for that when their contracts are up. And I say this with me personally liking webos the best of all the major platforms followed by iOS. Though FYI, I have an android phone and hate it, can't wait until the new iPhone and pre3 are released.

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This is exactly my experience and why I can't wait to get rid of this android phone and why I feel windows phone will eventually surpass android, because it too just works, it will have the same hardware support as android, and because of the tie in with windows 8.

 

If you think the iPhone/Android story is at all like the Mac/Windows story then you need to re-read your history.

For starters, the Mac was never nearly as successful as iOS is. So right there your entire theory is starting from a flawed premise. Basically you're basing an entire theory on things that didn't happen which makes everything you derive from that pretty much useless.

 

No one knows what the 'main features' will be. No one knows anything about iOS 5. It's all speculation. Wait until the keynote is over before making absurd statements like iOS is in a 'death spiral'. The keynote is in an hour. We'll see shortly what iOS 5 has to offer.

 

I actually like it the way it is. Android can dominate all they want as long as Apple keeps making money and has a healthy platform i'm more than content. Apple has never been about market domination, they cater to a certain demographic/niche market and that's it.

 

Yes thats why they are the second most valuable company in the US and worth more than microsoft and google combined.

 

Market domination does not mean that Dev's will jump ship. There is one key difference between this fight vs the Mac/PC fight and it is this, developers are far happier to stay with Apple for 2 reasons: 1.) Far less fragmentation which makes coding easier and 2.) The developers make more money.

In contrast, Android developers need to contend with the two key facts above. Fragmentation is no fun. You have to deal with more variables that makes development more complicated. Developers also make less money. While they get a bigger piece of the pie from Google, you don't see near the volume of sales. That equals less revenue and then less profits.

As long as developers are making more money, there will be incentive to stick with IOS vs Android.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/05...than-on-apples-ios/?section=magazines_fortune

 

What lesson was Apple meant to learn from Windows? Certainly Apple needs no lessons on how to make a profit....

Apple's strategy under Jobs was always to provide a premium product for a healthy profit. As expected for such a strategy, competitors will try to undercut the price, but unless they are more efficient at R&D and translating R&D into real products, then the reduced price typically reflects a less satisfying user experience.

And, for the record, when Apple tried a more open model for the Mac, it failed spectacularly (Daystar clones).

 

Market domination means nothing for example look at BMW and Volkswagon they don't dominate their markets but they do put out quality products.

Let android dominate all they want with their unpolished OS and massive fragmentation. I will take iOS because it does what i need it to do. The Devs are not going to have a diaspora from iOS because this is the platform that is more profitable for them. Most android users want free apps while iOS users will pay for a quality app.

 

The open model does obviously work for Google. For now. However, Apple would lose control of iTunes and the App store if it adopted the same approach. Microsoft and Google don't really have anything comparable to protect.

 

What the article you link to doesn't take into account is that the majority of the apps in the google market are monetized through ads, so of course the sales numbers wouldn't be the same. Take "Angry Birds" for example, it is a paid app in the appstore but a free app in the android market. It's free in the android market because it's add supported. So whereas Rovio will make 99 cents per person that downloads it in the appstore, they have an opportunity to make more money per person in the ad supported version. So if both apps were downloaded 1 million times (just using this number as an example) on each platform, the appstore would have 1 million more paid app downloads right there..though that doesn't necessarily mean the dev made more money in the appstore.

 

First off iOS is larger than Android when you include iPod Touch iPad and the iPhone. iOS user download and spend more money on apps than Android user. Apple has given over 2 billion dollars to developers. There has been over 10 billion downloads from the App store were Android users have only downloaded 4.5 billion apps. Developers prefer to develop for iOS first because thats were the money at. This will not look like Mac vs Windows, theres too many other OS. Android will not have 90% of the market.

Who's to say that the Twitter integration is true? why don't you wait until WWDC is done before you complain about a rumor.

 

i have a lot more respect for Google and Android than i do for Microsoft and Windows

 

Windows has made a lot of strides in the past few years.

NOT being the multi-market defacto monopoly has led to some (IMO) worthwhile changes in their behavior.

I like what they are attempting with the new Windows phone, and I am a fan of Windows 7. Its not perfect, but they are steps in the right direction.

 

I think Apple lost because Steve Jobs was fired back in 1984, not because Windows was more open. Same thing is happening right now with Microsoft. Steve Ballmer sucks. Coming out with Windows Phone 7 four years after iPhone came out?... Mac OS X sales are climbing. I see so many people with MacBook Pros.