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lobbyist

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Looks like the "Advanced" menu has disappeared in iOS10. Very annoying :mad:

I used to have OS language set to English and Region Format set to French. OS language now dictates everything.

It's a "new" feature I'm guessing :(

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murgo

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So you can't have your phone in English with German region settings anymore? This is mindblowing.. what the hell were they thinking? I will NEVER EVER set my phone language to German. Guess I won't be updating..
 

lobbyist

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Nope. In iOS10, the Advanced menu just isn't there anymore. Pretty much in line with Apple's obsession at over-simplifying everything ... I bet they just suddenly decided this menu was too complicated.

So you can't have your phone in English with German region settings anymore? This is mindblowing.. what the hell were they thinking? I will NEVER EVER set my phone language to German. Guess I won't be updating..
 

C DM

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Nope. In iOS10, the Advanced menu just isn't there anymore. Pretty much in line with Apple's obsession at over-simplifying everything ... I bet they just suddenly decided this menu was too complicated.
Or it's a bug of some sort.
 

C DM

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Damn, this sucks.
Why they do this kind of things?
Hard to say, but unfortunately it sounds just like at least a handful of other previously existing and fairly straightforward features that didn't really need to be removed this seems to just another one that was removed for some reason, or perhaps no reason at all (or potentially due to some oversight/bug, which might mean it could be fixed at some point).
 
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oMc

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My phone is in French and region settings in Finland and everything is fine, iOS is not forcing me to set my phone language in Finnish or my region settings in France, so I don't see the problem.
 

C DM

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My phone is in French and region settings in Finland and everything is fine, iOS is not forcing me to set my phone language in Finnish or my region settings in France, so I don't see the problem.
Was it like that before and just carried over? Can you change that to something else similar if you wanted to now with iOS 10?
 

yashz

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Looks like I still have the option in iOS 10 GM. Clean install a couple months ago.
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oMc

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Was it like that before and just carried over? Can you change that to something else similar if you wanted to now with iOS 10?

Yes it was like this since iOS 9, I moved in Finland in February.

But I still can edit it the way I want, on iOS 10. Just changed region settings to France and then back to Finland, no problems. Then I changed phone language to English (US) and then back to French, no issues. I took a screenshot of my settings when the phone was in English.

Maybe it's because I have French, English and Suomi in my favorites languages as well as in my keyboards...?

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lobbyist

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Your region is Finland, but your date format is still in English, correct?

I can't change my date format back to French whilst still keeping the OS language in English.

Yes it was like this since iOS 9, I moved in Finland in February.

But I still can edit it the way I want, on iOS 10. Just changed region settings to France and then back to Finland, no problems. Then I changed phone language to English (US) and then back to French, no issues. I took a screenshot of my settings when the phone was in English.

Maybe it's because I have French, English and Suomi in my favorites languages as well as in my keyboards...?

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oMc

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Your region is Finland, but your date format is still in English, correct?

I can't change my date format back to French whilst still keeping the OS language in English.

Yes my date format was changed in English. Look at the time on my screenshot, it's 12.14 AM. Now that I've switched back to French it's 12:44 AM (separator was a "." In English and is a ":" in French). And region was Finnish during the whole time.
 

oMc

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That's exactly my point. Look at my original post: I used to have the OS language in English and the region format in French. Now it can only be the same language for both!

I still don't understand why you can't have a regional setting in one country and a language for the phone totally different, while me and other (like one poster above in Denmark).

Please post a screenshot of your settings (in iOS 10).
 

lobbyist

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Do you agree that the language of the date format cannot be changed to something other than the language of the OS?

That's all I'm trying to say here. It wasn't like this before iOS10.

Yes my date format was changed in English. Look at the time on my screenshot, it's 12.14 AM. Now that I've switched back to French it's 12:44 AM (separator was a "." In English and is a ":" in French). And region was Finnish during the whole time.
 

stooovie

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Totally fine here. English language, Czech regional format. On both my iPad and iPhone.
 

oMc

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Yeah, ok I get it. But it's a non issue for me as France and Finland have similar regional formats anyway. So that's why I haven't noticed anything special since iOS 10.

But yeah if your phone is set in English but you want to use a European regional format, it seems it's not possible.
 

lobbyist

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Apr 27, 2008
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Montreal, QC
But it was definitely possible before.

Thank you. I hope everyone else who's been replying also finally does understand.

Yeah, ok I get it. But it's a non issue for me as France and Finland have similar regional formats anyway. So that's why I haven't noticed anything special since iOS 10.

But yeah if your phone is set in English but you want to use a European regional format, it seems it's not possible.
 
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stooovie

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Ah! I get it. I didn't know that was even possible before. But do file a request with Apple.
 
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