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iOS7 Beta 6 Feels finished ?
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I wonder if we'll get the iOS 7 version for iPhone with the 5S and 5C releases but wait on the iPad version until a month later with the new iPad versions. It wouldn't be unheard of but would be odd. I agree with you though, the iPad versions feel less polished than where the iPhone is at now.
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Here's the timeline proposed out there back in June:
"...So if Apple keeps to this schedule with iOS 7, here are the iOS 7 release dates we’re looking at:
Beta 2 – Monday, June 24th
Beta 3 – Wednesday, July 10th
Beta 4 – Thursday, July 25th
Beta 5 – Monday, August 12th
Beta 6 – Friday, August 30th
Gold Master – Tuesday, September 10th
iOS 7 Final – Friday, September 20th..."
See here for their explanation: http://www.cultofmac.com/232580/whe...-released-ios-7-timeline/#UV5SmKrPXqMVCKew.99
Now here's my explanation why I think that will not happen (it already hasn't):
Why anyone would think that Apple would stick with how they've done other iOS's is beyond me. All iOS updates have been incremental so far. iOS 7 is not an incremental update like all other iOS's. It is a total overhaul of the OS, so, it will not follow (and has not) previous patterns as this has not been done before.
Some of you can't seem to get this into your heads, you're so into this fantasy timeline based on past incremental update patterns.
It's not ready, still bugs and issues. I say beta 8 before the GM. IF, and I mean IF there is an Apple event September 10, that does not necessarily mean things will follow past patterns here either:
1) they are introducing 2 (count 'em TWO) new iPhones. (When has Apple done this before?).
2) iOS 7 is a complete overhaul, not just another update.
I say if it follows any pattern it'll be like iPhone 4 release, three weeks out: October 4th for new iPhone deliveries. And I'm sticking with it.
"...So if Apple keeps to this schedule with iOS 7, here are the iOS 7 release dates we’re looking at:
Beta 2 – Monday, June 24th
Beta 3 – Wednesday, July 10th
Beta 4 – Thursday, July 25th
Beta 5 – Monday, August 12th
Beta 6 – Friday, August 30th
Gold Master – Tuesday, September 10th
iOS 7 Final – Friday, September 20th..."
See here for their explanation: http://www.cultofmac.com/232580/whe...-released-ios-7-timeline/#UV5SmKrPXqMVCKew.99
Now here's my explanation why I think that will not happen (it already hasn't):
Why anyone would think that Apple would stick with how they've done other iOS's is beyond me. All iOS updates have been incremental so far. iOS 7 is not an incremental update like all other iOS's. It is a total overhaul of the OS, so, it will not follow (and has not) previous patterns as this has not been done before.
Some of you can't seem to get this into your heads, you're so into this fantasy timeline based on past incremental update patterns.
It's not ready, still bugs and issues. I say beta 8 before the GM. IF, and I mean IF there is an Apple event September 10, that does not necessarily mean things will follow past patterns here either:
1) they are introducing 2 (count 'em TWO) new iPhones. (When has Apple done this before?).
2) iOS 7 is a complete overhaul, not just another update.
I say if it follows any pattern it'll be like iPhone 4 release, three weeks out: October 4th for new iPhone deliveries. And I'm sticking with it.
Someone else suggested this, sounds probable.
When is the rumored iPad event? Sometime in October?
It got a complete overhaul in terms of the UI, yes. But that doesn't necessarily make iOS 7 the biggest update. I would argue iOS 5 was bigger--notification center, iCloud integration, and PC-free were all big additions.
The September 10 event at this point is a given. Though I grant you it's completely possible we won't see the GM that day as usual. Instead, we could get it a week later if iPhones don't come till October 4. But I doubt it.
I think a more likely scenario is that the buggier iPad iOS 7 will be released in oct with the new iPads.
I disagree, iOS 7 is totally different, not just the entire UI, functionality as well, and I notice it with my iPhone 5. A lot of things work differently, including multitasking, Maps changes, including yelp integration (wish it was foursquare instead
), notifications, iCloud keychain, siri improvements (much faster, great sounding voices), addition of iTunes Radio to Music (which also has been overhauled), much more changed than iOS 5. (Are you using iOS 7?)I could be wrong on my dates, but I will be surprised if we see new iPhones before October. I also don't think the predictions of Sept. 10th are a "given" as people seem to think, but, based on old info. & previous patterns. I don't think anyone at Apple has leaked anything, especially not after the dev. center being down and slowing the process.
feel finished to me. ofcourse there is still some roughness around the edges, but i've been using ios 7 since beta 1 as a daily driver, and with beta 4/5/6 i really couldn't tell it was beta any more. only thing beta about 4 was skype didnt work. not that i used it that much but it was something to remind one that its a beta.
but once skype got fixed, the only thing that broke post beta 4 with my iphone 4s is whatsapp push notifications stopped working. they work for everything else. just not whatsapp. so thats a bit of a mystery. if it wasnt for this minor issue it really does seem done to me.
I'm sure they'll use whatever time and betas remain to polish out the inconsistencies, the small minor bugs, etc. I can see it easily getting done soon.
Also keep in mind that ios 7 is a huge redesign and undertaking. lots of already established things to fix. its not like previous ios updates where sure under the hood things changed but the overall feel of the os didn't.
So i'm sure we will still see some visual inconsistencies and things to complain about after gm. those will get polished up with successive update i'm sure.
but once skype got fixed, the only thing that broke post beta 4 with my iphone 4s is whatsapp push notifications stopped working. they work for everything else. just not whatsapp. so thats a bit of a mystery. if it wasnt for this minor issue it really does seem done to me.
I'm sure they'll use whatever time and betas remain to polish out the inconsistencies, the small minor bugs, etc. I can see it easily getting done soon.
Also keep in mind that ios 7 is a huge redesign and undertaking. lots of already established things to fix. its not like previous ios updates where sure under the hood things changed but the overall feel of the os didn't.
So i'm sure we will still see some visual inconsistencies and things to complain about after gm. those will get polished up with successive update i'm sure.
I disagree, iOS 7 is totally different, not just the entire UI, functionality as well, and I notice it with my iPhone 5. A lot of things work differently, including multitasking, Maps changes, including yelp integration (wish it was foursquare instead
I could be wrong on my dates, but I will be surprised if we see new iPhones before October. I also don't think the predictions of Sept. 10th are a "given" as people seem to think, but, based on old info. & previous patterns. I don't think anyone at Apple has leaked anything, especially not after the dev. center being down and slowing the process.
Yes, I'm using iOS 7. I think you're underestimating the under-the- hood changes required in iOS 5 to make it PC free. It was a big undertaking. Both OSes have about the same number of new APIs for developers.
The sept. 10 date is a given because Jim Dalrymple confirmed it. That's basically Apple unofficially confirming it.
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The media syncing / storing bugs that have persisted throughout the betas and gotten worse with iTunes 11 betas are far too huge and pervasive to warrant any positive outlook on the beta progression towards a Sept 10 release.
It seems pretty much ready for release IMO just really really hope they would bring back those flat buttons for the phone app and the thin font
This is the biggest problem that remains for me. Random message threads crashing and then having to reboot to open them. Ugh.
Apparently you haven't been reading much news. The September 10 event has been confirmed by All Things D which Apple constantly leaks to as they were the journalists Steve trusted the most. They have an insanely accurate track record.
Second while this is a very large update. It's not a complete overhaul. It's till a grid of icons and many apps function much the same with a new coat of white paint. Once again, many articles have stated that Apple pulled engineers from the Mac team to work on iOS to keep things on track. Your claim of a October release is bogus. Since a lot of companies are having media events in early September,Apple wil hose them as usual stealing the spotlight. October releases will be new iPads as iOS 7 is behind on the iPads and it makes perfect sense to release it with those devices in October.
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keyboard in the weather app is not transparent on my iPhone 5 / it should be the dark keyboard like on spotlight in this case anyway (i reported it).
that's what mine looks like too.
My safari is dark (translucent) w/light progress bar instead of blue. It started off white w/blue (I started at beta 2). Not sure if this changed when fiddling with accessibility settings to see what they do or when I went from beta 2 to 3, but, been the same since. If it's going to be dark, I'd like to have color in the progress bar!
I hope they offer choices to the translucent look: white/dark/colors ...it would make sense to have colors with color iPhones/ipods, but they might just have white with color accents that match the color of idevice.
I read lots of news, but, they are going by a pre-planned idealistic schedule idea made up in June, not new "leaked" information (I posted it for you to see). The Sept. 10th people said beta 6 would come the following week, hours after this announcement, there's beta 6. I don't care if it was a quick fix, there it is. Dev center downtime, that delays things also.
You say "large update" I say "complete overhaul", in any case, it IS the biggest change for iOS since the iPhone (Apple even says so)...this combined with the fact they are releasing TWO (2) new iPhones...want iOS 7 to be right and not have negative stuff they did with iOS 6 because of Maps...AND..iOS 7 is being more integrated with OS X Mavericks...with all of that in mind...whatever timeline they've used before will not be used here.
whenever it is announced, they will not have 2 iPhones available the following week. Maybe 5S in two weeks, 5C in three, but, no way in one week, this is not happening as fast as everyone thinks/wants. I don't care who says what. reliable. source. bogus. iPads will come later (mid-late October probably).
Apple may announce in timing to "steal the show", but the products will not be available as soon as you all think. ...If I am wrong about Oct 4th, then Sept 27th at earliest, no sooner.
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