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WJKramer

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So if I am at home connected to my WiFi network why don't I have the option to set the passcode lock to disable? I sure would like to set a phone security state based on whether or not I am away or at a trusted location. Seem's obvious.

I agree that NFC is crap but wouldn't it be great if when you left your house (WiFi) your phone would self secure? It could be possible to initiate other services as well such as bluetooth for the car ride. When you arrive at work and connect to WiFi bluetooth shuts off and the passcode comes back at a longer interval timeout?

What say you all!? Let's hear constructive ideas on this topic.
 
So if I am at home connected to my WiFi network why don't I have the option to set the passcode lock to disable? I sure would like to set a phone security state based on whether or not I am away or at a trusted location. Seem's obvious.

I agree that NFC is crap but wouldn't it be great if when you left your house (WiFi) your phone would self secure? It could be possible to initiate other services as well such as bluetooth for the car ride. When you arrive at work and connect to WiFi bluetooth shuts off and the passcode comes back at a longer interval timeout?

What say you all!? Let's hear constructive ideas on this topic.

I really like your idea. If a user sets "trusted locations" with WiFi as the location indicator, it makes perfect sense.
 
The topic has been discussed on many tech sites and it's an interesting idea but there are some scenarios that should be reviewed. For example, what if you are going to college and your dorm Wi-Fi is your "trusted" network? This leaves your phone vulnerable to prying eyes and would be thieves.
 
The topic has been discussed on many tech sites and it's an interesting idea but there are some scenarios that should be reviewed. For example, what if you are going to college and your dorm Wi-Fi is your "trusted" network? This leaves your phone vulnerable to prying eyes and would be thieves.

Not just that... what about the times you put your phone down at home only for friends to start going through messages, texting people, etc, like after a few drinks?

While i'd hope my friends aren't the sort that would, prevention is always better than cure and who knows, 'IF' the fingerprint scanner rumour is true, the whole password thing could soon be a moot point anyway!
 
The topic has been discussed on many tech sites and it's an interesting idea but there are some scenarios that should be reviewed. For example, what if you are going to college and your dorm Wi-Fi is your "trusted" network? This leaves your phone vulnerable to prying eyes and would be thieves.

That would be at the risk of the owner to choose which network is trusted or not, just as the decision to even put a passlock on in the first place.

I don't have one on mine, because if someone wants to mug me for it... rest assured I will use it as a weapon on their face and they won't want it after anyway. :D

I don't like the hassle of having to key it in everytime.
 
The topic has been discussed on many tech sites and it's an interesting idea but there are some scenarios that should be reviewed. For example, what if you are going to college and your dorm Wi-Fi is your "trusted" network? This leaves your phone vulnerable to prying eyes and would be thieves.

Not just that... what about the times you put your phone down at home only for friends to start going through messages, texting people, etc, like after a few drinks?

While i'd hope my friends aren't the sort that would, prevention is always better than cure and who knows, 'IF' the fingerprint scanner rumour is true, the whole password thing could soon be a moot point anyway!

Then don't select that WiFi network as a trusted location? I'm sure if it was implemented it would let you select certain WiFi locations.
 
Then don't select that WiFi network as a trusted location? I'm sure if it was implemented it would let you select certain WiFi locations.

Then where is your trusted network? I'm just saying there are scenarios where home isn't exactly a trusted network and I'm sure no one would consider their work network trusted.
 
Then where is your trusted network? I'm just saying there are scenarios where home isn't exactly a trusted network and I'm sure no one would consider their work network trusted.

I think for those select instances in which your home network is not considered "safe," such as if you have a lot of roommates, then the feature will be an unfortunate one those people can not take advantage of. But for a majority of people, mainly adults, people who live by themselves or just with their spouse, people who work Ina small office environment, or those who have their phone connected to their car via Bluetooth, I think it would be a very handy feature. Features do not need to only be applied if everyone can or will use it (i.e. Accessibility feature), but rather if a subsect of their buying group would get a beneficial use out of it and it is a feature in their OS that differentiates them from their competition.
 
I'm just not sure how I would feel having to enter a passcode and then not enter one and then enter one again. It's kind of disrupting. I'm not against the idea I just wouldn't use it.

Besides, with the fingerprint authentication coming with the iphone 5S do we even need this?
 
I think there are always going to be people "skeptical" of the whole finger print thing who will opt to have a pass code instead. I know if the location-based "safe haven" for entering a pass code was implemented, I would use pass code over fingerprint scanner.
 
Then where is your trusted network? I'm just saying there are scenarios where home isn't exactly a trusted network and I'm sure no one would consider their work network trusted.

Err... you simply don't have one?

Why would it have to be a mandatory feature?
 
Then where is your trusted network? I'm just saying there are scenarios where home isn't exactly a trusted network and I'm sure no one would consider their work network trusted.

And homes get broken into. And my car in the driveway is within wifi range so if I forgot my phone in the car it would be unlocked. Too many downsides for this feature.
 
And homes get broken into. And my car in the driveway is within wifi range so if I forgot my phone in the car it would be unlocked. Too many downsides for this feature.

If your home gets broken into you have much bigger problems than your phone being unlocked. If that did happen, however, do not fret. It would lock after said burglar leaves your trusted network. Also, not sure about you, but I never mistakenly leave my phone in the car for more than 15 mins, and I always lock my car doors.

I like this idea as I'm tired of turning on and off the passcode when I get home.
 
So if I am at home connected to my WiFi network why don't I have the option to set the passcode lock to disable? I sure would like to set a phone security state based on whether or not I am away or at a trusted location. Seem's obvious.

I agree that NFC is crap but wouldn't it be great if when you left your house (WiFi) your phone would self secure? It could be possible to initiate other services as well such as bluetooth for the car ride. When you arrive at work and connect to WiFi bluetooth shuts off and the passcode comes back at a longer interval timeout?

What say you all!? Let's hear constructive ideas on this topic.

I actually had that idea a long time ago and very likely wasn't the first either. I sent a suggestion to Apple, but it propably wound up in /dev/null...

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And homes get broken into. And my car in the driveway is within wifi range so if I forgot my phone in the car it would be unlocked. Too many downsides for this feature.

This would have to be intelligent, like:
1) Don't unlock automatically when you connect to your SSID
2) Lock automatically when you got out of range.

Once you are home and you unlock it, then it should remain unlocked.

These are just examples, but it could be relatively secure
 
I agree. I was hoping for location based settings. Like home wifi, go to DND or silent. To have these settings would also allow like home wifi forward calls to home number. The possibilities are unlimited. I was really hoping for apple to produce a version of the google app locale. The app allows you to do just what I'm looking for. There is also intelliborn on the JB side that allows this but I'm not JB.

Don't get me started on SMS forward & auto reply. I can't believe apple hasn't done this with all the don't text & drive pressure. You would think apple would give it to us and then allow us to decide to install it or not much like the Facebook app.

Maybe iOS 8...

Sadly, I sure I've wasted the 5 minutes it took me to type this because Aplle is only going to do what they want.
 
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